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NL50: Valuebet at river with TPMK
Villain: 40/14/3 (36) 60% bet river
Party Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter BTN: $51.22 SB: $69.25 BB: $90.45 UTG: $11.74 Hero (CO): $49.25 Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO) UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $1.50 Flop: ($4.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3.50</font>, BB calls $3.50 Turn: ($11.25) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players) BB checks, Hero checks River: ($11.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $11.50</font> What do you think about my line? What should I do at river? |
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Re: NL50: Valuebet at river with TPMK
Im most concerned about my betsize
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Re: NL50: Valuebet at river with TPMK
i'd look him up. you were checking turn to induce a value bet from him on the river?
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Re: NL50: Valuebet at river with TPMK
I'd rather bet the Ace on the turn. I think you're missing out on some value by not doing so.
As played I'd all his river RR. |
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Re: NL50: Valuebet at river with TPMK
Definitely bet the turn. As played, bet the river much bigger than you did; make it at least $7.5 there. I'd probably look him up here, it seems odd that a player as aggressive as 40 VPIP 3 AF would check three streets with a hand that beats one pair. He'll have like 65s for a straight here some of the time, but this guy is really aggressive and probably just "smelled weakness" with your small river bet and wanted to push you off.
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Re: NL50: Valuebet at river with TPMK
you should be bet/folding this river. I'd be like 8 or 9 though. 3 is terrible imo.
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Re: NL50: Valuebet at river with TPMK
Bet the turn!
To be honest i dont really like your line Unless you purposely set up turn and river to induce a bluff on the river?!?! river: i don't know why you bet so small on the river. You made things alot more complicated for yourself methinks. As played i think CALL. As played, chances are that villain thinks you were C betting with over cards on the flop, checked turn with KQ then tried to take a stab with 89, 9T, 67, worse aces (though there aren't many). |
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Re: NL50: Valuebet at river with TPMK
Bet/fold every street. As played you bet so small on river I don't think folding is much of an option though. You bet less than on the flop, this player is ridic aggro. If you bet that small it should be to induce a raise and call. I'd prefer just to bet every street 2/3 pot or w/e and fold to a raise.
Once in a while, especially if you've been at the table long enough I like to do this as well because they should see you betting flops and giving up after the turn. Just to implant doubt in their mind that you can still show up with a hand this is a fine line. Except the $3 bet, I don't know about that part... an amount less likely to be raised is preferable IMO but I honestly don't have a problem with the hand as long as you called. |
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Re: NL50: Valuebet at river with TPMK
Not opening ATo here is a sin IMO.
And I can't really understand why so many people want to bet turn. We are never getting 2 streets of value here, so if villain is more likely to call 1 street, it's surely going to be the river. In addition, we can't really be too concerned about protection - maybe cards that make the 78 str8 or 5-outers, but meh, that's not a huge headache. So I play it like OP, except bet maybe $7 - $7.75 on river and hope to get a call some of the time. I'd fold to any cr. Calling a river donk would depend on bet size. |
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Re: NL50: Valuebet at river with TPMK
Thank you!
I thought a turncheck would induce a bluff from this river-aggro type, which I could call. Should I ever bet smaller than half the pot at river? Is "at least half the pot" a good standard (especially against unknowns), even if it is a bluff, inducebluff or valuebet, independent of the texture? I bet that small because I thought that a bigger bet would scare away the middle pairs. |
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