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Old 08-29-2007, 04:27 AM
russkijim russkijim is offline
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Default Queens facing Big preflop overbet push

Villain is sidis_______ on NL100 party. Have him at 17/14/4.6 over 375 hands. Generally aggressive, can't remember him doing this before.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $134.00
BB: $31.48
UTG: $164.93
CO: $109.99
BTN: $134.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $3.00</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $10.00</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">CO raises all-in to $109.99</font>,

Pot Size: $120.99
Looks like he's trying to push me off the hand but I also thought he thought I might think this etc....

Is this one where you've just got to suck it up and call? Then curse when AA or KK appears [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
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Old 08-29-2007, 04:29 AM
Teh1337zor Teh1337zor is offline
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Default Re: Queens facing Big preflop overbet push

call+take note
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Old 08-29-2007, 04:31 AM
Kinbor Kinbor is offline
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Default Re: Queens facing Big preflop overbet push

easy fold here. you have queens, he has KK, AA or AK and you are generally drawing two outs. if he is a solid player (17/14/4.6 seem solid) this makes it a double fist pumping instafold because he is very rarely doing this w/ a worse hands and let you off cheap.

p.s. i fold here becuase i don't like to find myself in this kind of situation w/ no reads and it's 100bbs you'll get 'em from him sooner or later.
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Old 08-29-2007, 04:39 AM
loosbastard loosbastard is offline
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Default Re: Queens facing Big preflop overbet push

People have been doing all kinds of weird [censored] to me in CO/button/blind confrontations lately. So:

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call+take note

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Old 08-29-2007, 04:41 AM
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Default Re: Queens facing Big preflop overbet push

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Then curse when AA or KK appears [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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only curse if they come up on the flop.
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Old 08-29-2007, 04:46 AM
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Default Re: Queens facing Big preflop overbet push

Some months there ago there where some articles/posts on 2+2 about 4betpushing preflop with Ax against habitual light-3betters. Since then i've seen a lot of semi good regs applying this move.
So if you have some 3bethistory with this guy call.
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Old 08-29-2007, 06:44 AM
Daddy Warbucks Daddy Warbucks is offline
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Default Re: Queens facing Big preflop overbet push

Sidis is either a complete donk or somebody on 2+2(both maybe? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] ). I definitely remember hearing his name recently.
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:09 AM
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Default Re: Queens facing Big preflop overbet push

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Looks like he's trying to push me off the hand but I also thought he thought I might think this etc....


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I think it's pretty safe to assume that you are never getting leveled at this limit.
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:11 AM
cfb1739 cfb1739 is offline
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I would not be happy about getting AIPF w/ QQ w/o a very good and specific read on villain. If he's not a maniac, then you really are just praying that you are up against AK, and you are just a slight favorite over that hand.
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:13 AM
Demogorgon Demogorgon is offline
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Default Re: Queens facing Big preflop overbet push

Depends a lot on game flow and how he percieves you, but if its the first time he does this and he doesn't think you'd 3bet light then I don't fault you for folding. Any history of aggression = call.
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