JJ 2/4

rzweig · #1 09-06-2006, 01:48 AM

no reads on these players, should i have called?

Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with

UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 folds.

Flop:

(9SB, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn:

(6.5BB, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, Button folds, SB calls, BB raises, Hero folds, SB calls.

River:

(11.5BB, 2 players)
SB checks, BB bets, SB folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: 11.5BB

akvsaq · #2 09-06-2006, 05:16 AM

Your turn fold is good. Without reads and at this limit, when someone check-raises 2 people like that, you are almost always behind and drawing very slim or dead on this board. At higher limits or if BB is a top-notch exceptional player, he may make this move if he thinks you are capable of folding and him isolating the SB if he thinks SB is a fish w/ many holdings. I doubt a player of this level will be playing 2/4. You played well.

rzweig · #3 09-06-2006, 10:14 AM

But if i thought maybe there was some possibility he had an 8 or a 9 or some other pocket pair would a call down be ok? Im not used to folding top pair like this.

forshure · #4 09-06-2006, 10:17 AM

Dont fold this turn ever. He will show you TP, corrupted two pair, and a million other hands that you beat that calling down is correct.

danzasmack · #5 09-06-2006, 10:37 AM

With no reads whatsoever you have to call down here.

sharpie · #6 09-06-2006, 10:40 AM

Bad fold. It could easily be 98 or a bunch of other worse hands.

KilgoreTrout · #7 09-06-2006, 10:45 AM

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should i have called?

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Hells yes.

deadmoney314 · #8 09-06-2006, 10:57 AM

Seems instantly like a loose table, has anyone considered waiting until the turn to bet on a favorable card? The flop looks draw heavy and your opponents are certainly correct to call with a variety of hands on the flop.
Certainly a problem with this line is what to do if the button bets flop which is easily possible mucking up plans to charge a higher price for draws on the turn.
Even with those considerations, I opt for aggression as you played it up to the turn where I'd call down as the others suggested because of no reads.

gopnik · #9 09-06-2006, 11:22 AM

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should i have called?

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yes, that 5 was a good card for you

swong4444 · #10 09-06-2006, 11:26 AM

Yuck. Even though BB's c/r seems more like the "I want all your money" type, calling down is good. You will see a TP hand/semi-bluff often enough.