BIG river decision

badplayer · #1 11-06-2006, 10:51 PM

CO is solid: 20/6/1.6
BB is obviously not: 60/19/1.2

After my admittedly loose cold-call preflop, I insta-raised everything until the river.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 3 folds, CO raises, 1 fold, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, CO bets, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG folds, CO 3-bets, Hero caps, BB calls, CO calls.

Turn: (10 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, CO caps, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (22 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, CO raises,

Hero vomits and ?

sean c · #2 11-06-2006, 11:00 PM

Your asking if you should 3-bet right?

antneye · #3 11-06-2006, 11:05 PM

Why are we 3 betting sean? This is a crying call and nothing more. Of course if I am wrong, I eagerly await the explanation so you can edumacate me.

thank you Sir · #4 11-06-2006, 11:05 PM

I don't like the flop c/r

Hielko · #5 11-06-2006, 11:06 PM

Lol, this is not a big river decision. By the way, it is almost impossible that CO is a solid player. There is not a single hand that I can think of that warrants the action he is giving, and a flush is certainly not something he should have after the turn cap.

7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] is the only hand that is reasonable, but that's not really something I expect a 20/6/1.6 player to raise preflop. But the same is true for 44, 55 or 66..... It's a weird hand, but I think it doesn't really matter what you do on the river as long it isn't folding.

antneye · #6 11-06-2006, 11:07 PM

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I don't like the flop c/r

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yes. I lead the flop here.

thank you Sir · #7 11-06-2006, 11:07 PM

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Why are we 3 betting sean? This is a crying call and nothing more. Of course if I am wrong, I eagerly await the explanation so you can edumacate me.

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the only flush hand that makes sense for villain would be 78hh. What hands is he still going crazy with on the turn?

Hielko · #8 11-06-2006, 11:07 PM

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Why are we 3 betting sean? This is a crying call and nothing more. Of course if I am wrong, I eagerly await the explanation so you can edumacate me.

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So, how often do you see a solid player capping the turn with a flush draw?

thank you Sir · #9 11-06-2006, 11:11 PM

Looking at his stats, he almost has to have QQ here. 78hh is not even an option with someone who only raises 6% of their hands preflop.

antneye · #10 11-06-2006, 11:11 PM

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Why are we 3 betting sean? This is a crying call and nothing more. Of course if I am wrong, I eagerly await the explanation so you can edumacate me.

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So, how often do you see a solid player capping the turn with a flush draw?

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You don't normally. But if I trust the read that this guy is not a maniac, you have to assume he knows the flush is out there, and he has seen our straight from the get go.....why would he be raising unless he has no fear of any of it. Unless he is a total donk I see no reason not to trust him here.