NL200 flop 3-bet calling range

ActionStan · #1 10-26-2007, 07:56 AM

NL200 - Bodog

UTG(~200) min-raises to 4
HERO(~350) calls
BTN (~280) calls
BB (~200) calls

pot 17

Flop 4d6d7d
UTG leads for 17
HERO raises to 50
BTN raises to 280 all-in

What's you're calling range?

guaranteedBluff · #2 10-26-2007, 08:20 AM

any set, AA with a diamond

LifeTilt · #3 10-26-2007, 08:22 AM

I'm calling with any flopped flush. I drop any 7x5d, 6x5d, and any PP. 76 is close, but I fold this. I instacall with any set, and if this were pokerstars, I probably regret the call as the cards slowly come out without flipping over the hole cards. On FT, you at least know instantly that you are drawing to 7 outs or so.

ActionStan · #4 10-26-2007, 09:51 AM

So, I was the button. I figured I fold out a lot of over pairs with a diamond, most 2 pair hands, most pairs + draws, maybe the weird straight. That seems pretty reasonable. It also seems reasonable that a lot of those hands would raise (or at least a lot of those hands are in my particular raising range. JdJx, TdTx, 9d9x, 8d8x, 5d5x, 76s, 75s, 65s, a few others. It's a pretty scary board. It might be optimistic that they are in this particular villains range)

I also thought it would be hard for the smaller flopped flushes to call as I'm really only sticking in a little more than a pot sized bet. Those hands can't be too happy about anything I'd turn up. I could easily be playing QdJd, KdQd, JdTd, the same way. That may have been optimistic given that the really baby flushes are getting some SF outs.

I didn't think the EP raiser could call with anything. I'm pretty sure he had an overpair, probably without a diamond and he was stuck between me and another larger stack.

Does this seem reasonable?

SABR42 · #5 10-26-2007, 10:35 AM

Flushes and sets.

SABR42 · #6 10-26-2007, 10:36 AM

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On FT, you at least know instantly that you are drawing to 7 outs or so.

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10 outs cause whatever the turn card is, that's an out.

ActionStan · #7 10-26-2007, 10:39 AM

So, how wide is your raising range in MI there?

SABR42 · #8 10-26-2007, 10:41 AM

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So, how wide is your raising range in MI there?

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Probably flushes and sets as well. I'm definitely not going crazy in a 4-way pot here.

ActionStan · #9 10-26-2007, 10:44 AM

Fair enough. As the button, I think I was a little too optimistic about his raising range, but pretty on target with his calling range. These things happen.

Proofrock · #10 10-26-2007, 12:38 PM

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I also thought it would be hard for the smaller flopped flushes to call as I'm really only sticking in a little more than a pot sized bet.

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I disagree with this -- I don't think any flopped flush is folding.