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Old 11-25-2007, 10:20 AM
bozzer bozzer is offline
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Any chance of Realtime reading stats from pokertracker or hold'em manager databases in the future?

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Dear god please.

This software is great, but the stats are horribly inaccurate for around 40% of the of people I play against. Like off more than 5-20 points from their true VPIP according to Hold'Em Manager.

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presumably this is because the HH samples you are feeding RT and HM are different...
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Old 11-25-2007, 01:52 PM
aka_bebel aka_bebel is offline
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Hi mike!

Clear your PM box

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Old 11-25-2007, 06:50 PM
TheMetetron TheMetetron is offline
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Default Re: help!

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Any chance of Realtime reading stats from pokertracker or hold'em manager databases in the future?

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Dear god please.

This software is great, but the stats are horribly inaccurate for around 40% of the of people I play against. Like off more than 5-20 points from their true VPIP according to Hold'Em Manager.

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presumably this is because the HH samples you are feeding RT and HM are different...

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Exactly the same Hand Histories. I imported them one right after the other.
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Old 11-25-2007, 07:33 PM
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PokerTracker has issues calculating vpip in some cases from what I can see. I mentioned it before but got no comments:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...ue#Post12531780

Am I mistaken here? Over time this error builds up.
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Old 11-25-2007, 09:34 PM
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Metreon,

That's pretty disturbing. FWIW here are my HEM summary and stats from the RT "Save as Text" options. They all match except the CB. Not sure exactly what is going on there. Possibly due to differences in definition of a CB in a reraised pot but I am surprised they are off. I looked at 6-7 random donks (like I'm not one too?) - their stats matched up too.

So to get it straight - you exported your hands from PT, imported into RT and the VPIP and PFR of a bunch of villains doesn't match?



37190 players
Mr. D0! 39106 Hands

Won $475.41 3.33 BB/100



Pre-flop Total EP MP LP BLINDS

VP$IP 24% -- 21% 28% 22%

Call Open 11% -- 15% 13% 10%

Limp 5% -- 2% 2% 12%

Limp-Call 41% -- 41% (54) 50% (38) 38%

PFR 18% -- 18% 24% 11%

Raise 1st 26% -- 19% 32% 31%

3-Bet 5% -- 2% 4% 5%

Fold to 3-Bet 38% -- 37% 38% 39%

Blind Steal 32%

Fold to steal 88% (SB)

Fold to steal 82% (BB)

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Post flop Total Flop Turn River

Aggression 2.1 3.0 1.5 1.3

Agg Freq 45% 49% 42% 37%

Check-raise 4% 4% 5% 2%

Bet/Check 35/65 40/60 31/69 26/74

Rs/Call/Fold 10/35/54 11/29/60 9/43/49 10/42/48

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Flop Total HU(Pos) HU(Out Pos)

Cont bet 54% 58% 61%

Fold to CB 53% 49% 53%

Donk bet 21% 42% 10%

Fold to DB 44% 30% 49%

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Old 11-25-2007, 09:46 PM
TheMetetron TheMetetron is offline
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So to get it straight - you exported your hands from PT, imported into RT and the VPIP and PFR of a bunch of villains doesn't match?

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Right, not all the hands were exported PT stuff though. A lot of it I had just saved from before. Don't think that makes a difference.

Either way I imported to HM and Realtime at the same time and the numbers are way off for VPIP and PFR. Maybe for other stats too, once I noticed the VPIP/PFR was off I just didn't use them for those players. It is probably at least 20% of players are off by 5 points or more.
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Old 11-25-2007, 10:28 PM
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That is very strange. I'd say maybe some hands were observed and you had PT stats for some people that were based on them, but RT didn't have those hands available. But that doesn't explain why the RT stats don't match up with HEM...

I'd ask you to send me a bunch of HH's but unfortunately I'm in the middle of a move right now and my develeopment PC is packed away. I should be settled in a couple of weeks. Maybe I'll get back to you then?
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Old 11-26-2007, 02:31 PM
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I'm having the exact same problem as Metetron. I'll ship 100$ donation if/when you fix this.
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Old 11-26-2007, 02:39 PM
CapDaRipa CapDaRipa is offline
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Default Problems with absolute poker

hey guys,

i got a problem as follows with absolute poker:

the first hour with absolute the HUD run without a problem. but then after changing some options it still doesnt run anymore. the absolute tables are listed in the HUD window but without any dates and on the table there are no panels.

with poekr stars the HUD runs still without any problems.

i deleted already the database of absolute poker, but it doenst help. the HUD creates a new database-file but this stays on a size of 2 KB.

then i downloaded the realtime.exe again but this was without success, too.

any idea???

:-(
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:12 PM
mikechops mikechops is offline
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Was this party too? The other question I had is do the hand totals match up? If not then there are either some hands missing or there is a a problem with importing some hands. If they do then there is a problem with the way I am processing them.
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