How many 38+ vpip do you want at your table?

[solidswede]

I seem to do better if there is only 2 or 3 players with a vpip of 38 or higher at the table.
If it is only me and 4 or 5 players with a VPIP of 38+ I struggle.
It only seems relevant in a 5 or 6 handed game, while in a 4 handed game I do fine.

Thoughts?

[MitchL]

I generally like 5.

[whodaman]

i like 9

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i like 9

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I do also, but this is a sh forum.

[Adebisi]

Ideally I want the 3 on my right to be >38 and the 2 on my left to be <24.

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Ideally I want the 3 on my right to be >38 and the 2 on my left to be <24.

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I hope you dont believe that regardless of what kind +38vpip guys we are talking about.

You want as many idiots at your game. It will always be more profitable to have a 40/0 guy to your left than a 24/17 guy. He is gonna make more mistakes.

Obviously you dont want too many 40/30 guys to your left as they will make life hell for you.

Also, anyone who think that players with vpip +38 are bad by definition. Think again!

[Leader]

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Also, anyone who think that players with vpip +38 are bad by definition. Think again!

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This was my first thought. Table full of 40/20/1.5/38 guys. Nah I think I'll pass.

[Adebisi]

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Ideally I want the 3 on my right to be >38 and the 2 on my left to be <24.

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I hope you dont believe that regardless of what kind +38vpip guys we are talking about.

You want as many idiots at your game. It will always be more profitable to have a 40/0 guy to your left than a 24/17 guy. He is gonna make more mistakes.

Obviously you dont want too many 40/30 guys to your left as they will make life hell for you.

Also, anyone who think that players with vpip +38 are bad by definition. Think again!

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I know many 38+ VPIP aren't that bad, but regardless of how tough they might play postflop, I'll make money from them when I have position. It would be nice to have some 40/0 retarded guys on my left, but I don't think that's very realistic these days. A guy with a ~40 VPIP is much more likely to be 40/25 and a pain to deal with postflop. I'd definately rather have a 24/17 on my left than a 40/25. Especially when I have players that are too loose on my right, since I'd like to isolate them as much as possible.

[Kobecarter]

Yesterday i had 5 Fish on a 30/60 6max table. The flop was almost always 3-5 handed and average vpip was 63.
the pots are huge and variance is quite high with this type of players.


Do you guys think its more profitable than let's say 3 retards to your right and 2 TAGs to your left?

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Do you guys think its more profitable than let's say 3 retards to your right and 2 TAGs to your left?


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Your long term winrate at a table is determined by the sum of mistakes your opponents make. Substituting players who makes a lot of mistakes with players who makes fewer mistakes can never ever be good - unless you suck at adjusting.