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Old 09-19-2007, 05:22 PM
beanwater beanwater is offline
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Default uniproved AKo, out of posotion

bb is 38/5/1.8
co is 54/0/.2

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Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, CO calls.

Flop: (6 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, CO calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, CO calls.

River: (7.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero folds, BB folds.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB

is this totally standard? i end up in this spot alot, and im not sure if there's a better way to play this. always bet the turn?
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Old 09-19-2007, 05:44 PM
Robin Foolz Robin Foolz is offline
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Default Re: uniproved AKo, out of posotion

i'd call expecting to lose to some pp, or T8-T9, or KT. but getting nice odds (villain getting huge odds on bluffing with his busted frush draw) and the chance to see what he has and the remote possibility your hand is goot does it for me.
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Old 09-19-2007, 05:49 PM
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Default Re: uniproved AKo, out of posotion

Pretty tough spot with two other players in. I don't mind folding the river with a player behind. If the situation were different and I could close the action by calling against CO then I would.
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Old 09-19-2007, 05:52 PM
Robin Foolz Robin Foolz is offline
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Pretty tough spot with two other players in. I don't mind folding the river with a player behind. If the situation were different and I could close the action by calling against CO then I would.

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oops forgot about the player behind us. my bad. i thought we were last to act.

yes i definitely lean towards folding. far too many drawing hands that got there or paired up, and a guy with .2 aggression is betting into 2.
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Old 09-19-2007, 05:56 PM
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Default Re: uniproved AKo, out of posotion

The turn play is not totally standard, out of position against two opponents. Against one opponent bet the turn here a good percentage of the time when the flop had two suited and two connected. But both of your opponents are probably not on draws. I think you should check this turn most of the time. The board also has Q and J, the cards most commonly held by limpers.
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Old 09-19-2007, 06:08 PM
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Default Re: uniproved AKo, out of posotion

The river's the most obvious check/fold ever. You're never winning this pot with that river with Ace high against a LP and a semi-LAG.
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Old 09-20-2007, 12:29 AM
JacksonTens JacksonTens is offline
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Default Re: uniproved AKo, out of posotion

um c/c turn, c/f river

why bet turn? You must wanna get raised?

JT
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Old 09-20-2007, 03:22 AM
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Default Re: uniproved AKo, out of posotion

I wouldn't bet the turn. River look g00t.
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Old 09-20-2007, 03:24 AM
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Default Re: uniproved AKo, out of posotion

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um c/c turn, c/f river

why bet turn? You must wanna get raised?

JT

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Ya, dont bet this turn into 2 players. What is it with people and AK? Why are they betting it regardless of the board and how many players call?

OP, this board connects well with peoples starting hand ranges. You have crappy eq. I bet the flop as well with the gutshot but I dont expect to ever take the pot down. Sometimes tho I get it HU vs a straight draw and I can win UI.

The river is easy c/f if that was ever up for debate.
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Old 09-20-2007, 08:21 AM
mattnxtc mattnxtc is offline
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Default Re: uniproved AKo, out of posotion

Whats the standard line oop with ak in situations like this? I find myself in this position a lot where I raise ak, aq and miss the flop.
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