AKs gets 3-bet by tight tag...wtf?

sethypooh21 · #1 09-18-2007, 10:47 PM

villain is 19/15 nit/tag. WTF can he have here that beats me?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, 1 fold, Hero caps, SB calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero calls.

River: (13.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15.50 B

shane88888 · #2 09-18-2007, 10:50 PM

He went nuts with two sixes?

sethypooh21 · #3 09-18-2007, 10:54 PM

Yourface was screaming at me that the turn raise was too much at the time.

SteveL91 · #4 09-18-2007, 10:56 PM

Given the description, I think the turn play is too much. The line in general is fine, but I don't think it's correct in this instance. River call is good though.

TheHip41 · #5 09-18-2007, 10:56 PM

AK, A6, A2, A7, 66, 22.

On the turn, I think you should probably call, and fold the river U/I

I think the river A is not an improvement vs. his range.

Turn raise is bad, you have the nut low

sethypooh21 · #6 09-18-2007, 10:59 PM

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On the turn, I think you should probably call, and fold the river U/I

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aceskay · #7 09-18-2007, 11:00 PM

He could have any of those aces that have hit 2 pair, basically 3-betting you pf bc you could be stealing from the button.

I think the turn-raise only allows better hands to get more money in, and allows weaker hands to get away. I mean, he is certainly not playing AQ or AJ like this I don't think.

Maybe he has another AK, but even that I doubt he would 3-bet the turn. It looks like 2 pair or a set to me. However, it is difficult to fold that river in the heat of the moment.

emerson · #8 09-19-2007, 03:13 PM

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AK, A6, A2, A7, 66, 22.

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I agree with four of those. I don't think most will 3 bet A2 preflop. And with A7 he probably would not 3 bet the flop.

bigmac366 · #9 09-18-2007, 10:57 PM

given his image and the turn play, i'm tempted to get a case of mubs and think a set of aces. river immediately rules that out though.

so whats your image at the table, if your really lagging it up even a nit will stand up to you with AQ or worse.....i'm insta raising this river and calling a 3-bet. i expect to see a split, AQ or AJ, way more often than a set of sixes or dueces.

so to summarise raise/call

TheHip41 · #10 09-18-2007, 10:59 PM

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given his image and the turn play, i'm tempted to get a case of mubs and think a set of aces. river immediately rules that out though.

so whats your image at the table, if your really lagging it up even a nit will stand up to you with AQ or worse.....i'm insta raising this river and calling a 3-bet. i expect to see a split, AQ or AJ, way more often than a set of sixes or dueces.

so to summarise raise/call

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you can't be serious.

a 19/15 can have A6, or A2, or A7, or 66, or 22.

The river changes nothing. As played, you should be FOLDING the river, not raising.

If your only choices were to raise or fold this river, I believe folding the river would be a more +EV play after that PF, flop, and turn action.

Anyone that raise/calls this river hates money alot.

anyone else think you should fold the river?