NL25 overpair vs minraise

[Profish2285]

Thats the point, there is no other way to play this hand. Calling is bad because there are many turn cards that kill your hand, folding is obviously very weak, so its a push. I think many unknowns see overpairs and go with them, that is definitely a safe assumption. I think SOME unknowns will see a flush draw and an over and go with it, especially since they see people on tv pushing with their draws. Im not saying villain has overs here, that would make him a complete maniac, but to say he doesnt have an overpair or a draw here very often is just false.

[WhiteWolf]

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I always wonder. How many bb is an unimproved pair worth?



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One of the reasons you reraise preflop here is to reduce the effective stack sizes and make the hand easier to play post flop. Bloating the pot preflop, and then wondering "how many BB do I want to put in this pot postflop?" in an absolute sense is not the correct way to approach hands. Post flop action should be considered relative to the current pot size and the relation of the remaining stacks to that pot. If we're still deep postflop, we want to consider pot control. Here we are not deep. Once we flop an overpair, it's less than 2 pot sized bets to get it all in, so we should feel fairly comfortable putting all our money in the middle.

[pkrPlayerBr]

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raise more pf, bet about pot on flop. other than that little bit its all good.

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I would bet more pf, but why bet pot on flop? I would bet about my stardand cbet which is about 75~ of the pot.

After I 3bet pf, on this flop, I am b3bai 100% of the times.

Sorry I only read the other responses later. I think this is pretty standard shove, and I agree with Profish.

[joytoxin68]

I would make a larger bet on the flop, maybe $10. If he calls I would have to consider folding, fearing AA. I don't understand why we discount AA or even KK here.

[Profish2285]

The reason those are so discounted is because most unknowns will re raise with AA/KK.