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#1
10-28-2007, 10:04 AM
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10/20 NL on Bodog
Hand came up yesterday than had me a bit confused, just looking for some feedback on how you approach this river.
9 handed, this is my 6th or 7th hand at the table, no reads on villian. Im Dealt Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and there are 2 limpers in front of me, im in the cutoff and limp also. Sb compelets, BB checks (villian). Im at $2000 he has me slighlty covered. Flop is 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] sb check, BB fires for $80 all fold to me I call, sb folds. River A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] He checks, I bet $400, he calls. River 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] He checks... Whats your play here? 
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#2
10-29-2007, 01:28 AM
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Re: 10/20 NL on Bodog
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#3
10-29-2007, 03:03 AM
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Re: 10/20 NL on Bodog
I asume he is fastplaying a four on flop, and does not like the turn, so he check calls on turn to try to spike a full house on river, he now treats his hand as a draw or a bluffcatcher and hoping it will go check check on river. Since trips obv has some kind of showdownvalue.
Something that leads me towards thinking he has at least a four is that u overbet the pot on turn and he calls out of position. If i where in this spot i would bet like 7-800 on river for value,but not be very surprised if he shoves allinn with 4 9 offsuit or maybe calls with king four with king of hearts.
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#5
10-29-2007, 08:41 AM
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Re: 10/20 NL on Bodog
Tough hand, checking is too weak though I think is has to be bet 600-700 and call a shove, altho when you're shoved upon expect to be behind most (but not all) the time but expect to be ahead most of the time he checks to you so bet ! unfortuantely you can't really bet 600 here and fold toa shove getting 4-1
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#6
10-29-2007, 11:48 AM
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Re: 10/20 NL on Bodog
That was probably the worst response I've seen to a post in a long time, I banged it out while I was just heading out the door.
Interesting hand, basically what delegator said, the point I was trying to get across was when checked to on this river with a Q8hh you're generally ahead, although I suppose Kx(4?)hh is quite a possible holding to beat you. (not really too sure anyone would just lead a Kxhh out on the flop though). But if you're not betting hands like this for value i don't know how it's possible to make money at the 10/20 + stakes. But this is one of the more interesting hands I've seen in a while as its a much more common scenario than some of the things that have been posted which are all just speculation, also the fact that it's 100bb deep and not 200+ makes it more relative to high stakes online ring games.
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#8
10-29-2007, 12:46 PM
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Re: 10/20 NL on Bodog
ya id put him more on 4 x than anything, i dont think i liek beeting as much as most people, but your hand is so likely good here you probably have to bet, and just fold to a c/r would be a pretty sick bluff line.
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