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11-08-2007, 08:13 PM
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[ QUOTE ] I don't see how banning of hugs should be an important issue. What is more interesting to me is that, if you believe the article linked in the OP, hugging is becoming more and more prevalent between young students. If this is true, what are the forces at work which are causing this trend? [/ QUOTE ] Kids are growing up to be better people? [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure if more hugging is better or worse than less hugging. It's just different. But what I'm getting at is that this hugging trend could be a symptom of a larger shift in social/cultural norms. What are the root causes of this shift, what are the likely results, and are the results good or bad? I realize this is pretty off topic and doesn't have anything to do with politics so I won't elaborate here. 
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11-08-2007, 08:49 PM
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Re: Hug Ban
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I don't see how banning of hugs should be an important issue. What is more interesting to me is that, if you believe the article linked in the OP, hugging is becoming more and more prevalent between young students. If this is true, what are the forces at work which are causing this trend? [/ QUOTE ] Kids are growing up to be better people? [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure if more hugging is better or worse than less hugging. It's just different. But what I'm getting at is that this hugging trend could be a symptom of a larger shift in social/cultural norms. What are the root causes of this shift, what are the likely results, and are the results good or bad? I realize this is pretty off topic and doesn't have anything to do with politics so I won't elaborate here. [/ QUOTE ] No, it's better. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#43
11-08-2007, 09:13 PM
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#45
11-09-2007, 03:26 AM
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Re: Hug Ban
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I don't understand how the kids are putting up with this crap. [/ QUOTE ] Agree with you, BCPVP. Those are just social artifacts. Maybe alright in some countries and not in others. What next ban men holding hands like Bush and King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud at camp David? It is simply an accepted cultural thing, a sign of closeness! Just in case, here is the video link to two innocent men holding hands whilst taking a walk. Link [/ QUOTE ] Wow, you'll do anything to cram your dislike for Bush in a conversation where it doesn't belong, won't you? [/ QUOTE ] Yes, I learned the technique on this forum, from ACers. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Anyway, why would you not hate that loathsome liar and, obviously not because he held hands?
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#46
11-09-2007, 03:45 AM
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Re: Hug Ban
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I don't understand how the kids are putting up with this crap. [/ QUOTE ] Agree with you, BCPVP. Those are just social artifacts. Maybe alright in some countries and not in others. What next ban men holding hands like Bush and King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud at camp David? It is simply an accepted cultural thing, a sign of closeness! Just in case, here is the video link to two innocent men holding hands whilst taking a walk. Link [/ QUOTE ] Wow, you'll do anything to cram your dislike for Bush in a conversation where it doesn't belong, won't you? [/ QUOTE ] Yes, I learned the technique on this forum, from ACers. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Anyway, why would you not hate that loathsome liar and, obviously not because he held hands? [/ QUOTE ] Your use of alliteration is impressive.
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#47
11-09-2007, 04:18 AM
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Re: Hug Ban
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I don't understand how the kids are putting up with this crap. [/ QUOTE ] Agree with you, BCPVP. Those are just social artifacts. Maybe alright in some countries and not in others. What next ban men holding hands like Bush and King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud at camp David? It is simply an accepted cultural thing, a sign of closeness! Just in case, here is the video link to two innocent men holding hands whilst taking a walk. Link [/ QUOTE ] Wow, you'll do anything to cram your dislike for Bush in a conversation where it doesn't belong, won't you? [/ QUOTE ] Yes, I learned the technique on this forum, from ACers. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Anyway, why would you not hate that loathsome liar and, obviously not because he held hands? [/ QUOTE ] I think the obvious point is that GWB is not even a part of the discussion, and you bringing him up is just trolling. Obviously you have little to add to this discussion, which is nothing unusual.
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#49
11-14-2007, 10:47 PM
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Re: Hug Ban
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[ QUOTE ] "administrators said the ban was enacted because while most touching may be welcome, some touching isn’t." Why, then, don't they just ban involuntary hugging? [/ QUOTE ] A very sensible question. Our society has got to the point where banning an *actual* harm is considered "not enough". We must outlaw the behaviours that *could* lead to the harm. We are plagued with myriad laws designed to prevent some higher level problem by banning a correlated innocuous behaviour. Open container laws, cartoon kiddie porn, drug prohibition, etc are all examples. there are plenty more. A ban on hugs because someone might get hugged against their will is just natural in light of our society's current approach to law and its role in a citizen's life. note: this "hug ban" is all just part of the new "no fun century" we are living in, which i posted about a while ago. last note for Andy: I'm sure that involuntary hugs were *already* against the rules. But that's not enough. It's like adding more gun control laws because someone broke an existing one. natedogg [/ QUOTE ] Orthodox Jewish laws have been explained to me this way. You don't want to get anywhere near breaking a rule so do what they call 'building fences' and outlaw behavior that is similar or could lead to breaking a rule. Could have something to do with Judiasm having a long history. It's a lot easier to make laws than to repeal them and power likes to accumulate more power.
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