QQ vs a nit

Choparno · #1 11-16-2007, 10:05 AM

Villain here is 15/10/5.1 over 500 hands, a nitty reg, and I am an unknown to villain.

I assume that he is positionally aware and that his 3-betting range vs a UTG raiser is specifically AK and JJ+. I was going to probably call one street on a dry board, but on this flop I am only ahead of AK.

So is c/f ok? Anyone like donking the flop here for $80 instead of checking? That would presumably fold out AK and if he calls/raises I know my hand is no good.

2/4 NL, 6 players

Stacks:
CO ($394.00 in chips)
BTN ($896.00 in chips)
SB ($396.00 in chips)
BB ($592.48 in chips)
Hero (UTG) ($443.30 in chips)
MP ($394.00 in chips)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero raises to $14, 1 fold, CO raises to $54, 3 folds, Hero calls $54

Flop ($114): J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero checks, CO bets $94, Hero folds

JFsports · #2 11-16-2007, 10:09 AM

I think you played this well. I don't think donking gains you much, because I think he will check behind with AK a lot anyway

Suwalski · #3 11-16-2007, 10:18 AM

I don't understand why you call preflop if you fold flops where you get an overpair. I call flop and see what happens on turn, probably fold.

ogdundar · #4 11-16-2007, 10:29 AM

I like this if he is incredibly straightforward postflop and rarely c-bets in 3-bet pots, but most nits arent THAT nitty. I think I call the flop and dump it on the turn. It feels wrong to call pf and then dump it on a low flop for one bet.

Pete H · #5 11-16-2007, 10:38 AM

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I don't understand why you call preflop if you fold flops where you get an overpair.

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Choparno · #6 11-16-2007, 10:47 AM

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I don't understand why you call preflop if you fold flops where you get an overpair. I call flop and see what happens on turn, probably fold.

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I'm not happy about doing it but this is the worst non-A/K flop I could have seen. I don't think he 3-bets TT here but along with JJ it is possible.

Also, I believe most nitty/straightforward players would tend to check behind with AK on this flop vs a player who has called their 3-bet OOP because they know it is quite likely to have given me a set or overpair and they can expect a call or raise.