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KJ FROM SB .25/.50
The pf raiser in this hand raised 100% of hands pf. Is there any room for improvement here? In my last post, you guys told me to donk the flop in a similar situation, so I suppose I should have done that here, as well.
Full Tilt 0.25/0.5 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG folds, MP folds. Flop: (8 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls, BB folds. Turn: (5 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO calls. River: (12 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls. Final Pot: 16 BB |
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Re: KJ FROM SB .25/.50
Check-raise the flop and it's not even close.
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Re: KJ FROM SB .25/.50
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Check-raise the flop and it's not even close. [/ QUOTE ] check/raise? why? what am I trying to protect my hand against? |
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Re: KJ FROM SB .25/.50
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[ QUOTE ] Check-raise the flop and it's not even close. [/ QUOTE ] check/raise? why? what am I trying to protect my hand against? [/ QUOTE ] Why do we always somehow end up on hand protection? |
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Re: KJ FROM SB .25/.50
i probably donk the flop
that board is semi-connected and a lot of draws will be calling ... and even raising - which will give you a chance to 3bet you could checkraise also ... both are options w hat is not an option is check-calling and then donking the turn, on a card that kind of makes the board semi-crappy and then donking the river on another card that makes your hand even worse what the hell was going on in your head - donuts? |
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Re: KJ FROM SB .25/.50
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[ QUOTE ] Check-raise the flop and it's not even close. [/ QUOTE ] check/raise? why? what am I trying to protect my hand against? [/ QUOTE ] Repeat after me.... "I raise first and foremost for value, not protection!!" |
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Re: KJ FROM SB .25/.50
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The pf raiser in this hand raised 100% of hands pf. Is there any room for improvement here? In my last post, you guys told me to donk the flop in a similar situation, so I suppose I should have done that here, as well. [/ QUOTE ] What was the other hand and how is it similar to this one? |
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Re: KJ FROM SB .25/.50
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Check-raise the flop and it's not even close. [/ QUOTE ] check/raise? why? what am I trying to protect my hand against? [/ QUOTE ] Why do we always somehow end up on hand protection? [/ QUOTE ] Is that not why we check/raise? |
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Re: KJ FROM SB .25/.50
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i probably donk the flop that board is semi-connected and a lot of draws will be calling ... and even raising - which will give you a chance to 3bet you could checkraise also ... both are options w hat is not an option is check-calling and then donking the turn, on a card that kind of makes the board semi-crappy and then donking the river on another card that makes your hand even worse what the hell was going on in your head - donuts? [/ QUOTE ] apparently... |
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Re: KJ FROM SB .25/.50
It's not for protection, it's for getting most value bets in when you have the best hand. I don't see any reason to slowplay this against loose aggro villain.
Protection here is a remote second, but notice that even gutshots will have correct odds to draw for one bet, for example QT, Q9, J9, AT, AQ, T9. You d wanna knock those out or make them draw incorrectly. |
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