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Old 05-20-2007, 10:07 PM
Man of Means Man of Means is offline
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Default Live 4/8 A8o TP hand

foxwoods 4/8

This is ridiculous but I don't often find myself playing this type of hand. I often fold A6o-A2o in the SB.

I'm pretty sure the flop is my worst street here and boondogles the rest of the hand.

MP is an old man type who would limp just about any ace
LP I don't know, he's loose passive and has a wide range

Hero is in small blind with A8 offsuit

3 limpers: EP, MP, LP, hero completes, BB checks

Flop A 6 2 rainbow (4.5 SB)
Hero checks, BB checks, EP checks, MP bets, LP calls, hero raises, MP and LP call

Turn 2 (5 BB)
Hero bets, MP calls, LP calls

River 3 no flush possible (8 BB)
Hero bets,
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Old 05-20-2007, 10:54 PM
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Default Re: Live 4/8 A8o TP hand

It depends if you think MP raises a big ace preflop.

If you think all aces are equally likely, I think I'd check/call on the river.
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Old 05-20-2007, 11:10 PM
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Default Re: Live 4/8 A8o TP hand

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It depends if you think MP raises a big ace preflop.


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He will probably only raise AKs-AJs and AKo, not AQo
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Old 05-20-2007, 11:14 PM
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Default Re: Live 4/8 A8o TP hand

I'm not sure if the flop matters one way or the other. If you lead and don't get raised you are going to play the hand the same way as shown. Can you lay it down if you get raised on the river?
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Old 05-21-2007, 12:30 AM
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Default Re: Live 4/8 A8o TP hand

at a live game, it would be a pretty easy bet/fold.
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Old 05-21-2007, 01:20 AM
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Default Re: Live 4/8 A8o TP hand

Brian, do you more or less suck at poker? What's confusing about this hand to you, sir?

Anyway, I'm kidding. I think this way is fine given the level of aggression at the Foxwoods $4/$8, but I personally prefer to just bet the flop--it fits better with my unexploitable strategy of betting good hands and checking-folding bad ones.

I think really you're posting this because you were down a bunch and not thinking straight. It seems like a relatively straightforward hand. Don't even [censored]' worry about it.

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Old 05-21-2007, 10:53 AM
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Default Re: Live 4/8 A8o TP hand

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I think really you're posting this because you were down a bunch and not thinking straight. It seems like a relatively straightforward hand.

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This is true and I will probably post more "relatively straightforward hands" from the downward spiral that was this past weekend. I thought it was OK to carefully examine one's play when facing a loss.
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Button is "any ace" from previous hand; SB is aggressive, somewhat loose older somewhat obnoxious man

Hero has Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in MP and open raises
Button coldcalls, SB coldcalls 1.5 SBs, BB folds

Flop T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB checks, hero bets, button calls, SB raises, hero 3-bets, button folds, SB calls

Turn 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB pauses [to consider his options while holding the nuts] then he bets, Hero folds.
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Old 05-21-2007, 11:34 AM
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Default Re: Live 4/8 A8o TP hand

You played the A8 fine and there is no reason to think that you don't have the best hand. What's the question?
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Old 05-21-2007, 11:56 AM
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Default Re: Live 4/8 A8o TP hand

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I think really you're posting this because you were down a bunch and not thinking straight. It seems like a relatively straightforward hand.

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This is true and I will probably post more "relatively straightforward hands" from the downward spiral that was this past weekend. I thought it was OK to carefully examine one's play when facing a loss.
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Button is "any ace" from previous hand; SB is aggressive, somewhat loose older somewhat obnoxious man

Hero has Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in MP and open raises
Button coldcalls, SB coldcalls 1.5 SBs, BB folds

Flop T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB checks, hero bets, button calls, SB raises, hero 3-bets, button folds, SB calls

Turn 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB pauses [to consider his options while holding the nuts] then he bets, Hero folds.

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i wouldnt 3B the flop
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