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08-18-2006, 07:19 PM
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I have a problem folding sets--44 flop fold
Recently I was playing 3/6 and I had 33, raised, a tag IP called, and a fish called. The flop came 8 9 3 r and the fish donked a good portion of his stack, I raised to 240, the tag pushed, and the fish called. I put the tag on 88 or 99, couldn't see why he'd push a dry draw. I folded, and he had KK.
Lately, I've been seeing that I fold too much in general, but I think I'm not bad overall. Villain in this hand is 18/12 tight, solid tag frankubrik or something like that. He is 2.2 and multitables with me a lot. My impression of him is not that he gambles a lot, but that he plays really solid. Thoughts on the fold? My flop raise was actually purposefully so that I could ascertain whether I was beat. Against most guys, I just push the flop initially. Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter CO ($787.58) Button ($380.16) SB ($1082.87) BB ($512.67) UTG ($2795.18) Hero ($1007.55) Preflop: Hero is MP with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $21</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $21, SB (poster) calls $18, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>. Flop: ($69) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Villain bets $50, Hero raises to $190, fold, villain raises to $350, Hero folds. 
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#4
08-18-2006, 07:44 PM
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Re: I have a problem folding sets--44 flop fold
M,
Like we discussed before, you can't see him here w/ a hand we beat except for OESD/FD. Looks like the nuts, overset, or we're racing. However, this is me responding w/o the greatest feel for this player, how your table was playing, how you were playing, etc etc. jrbick
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#5
08-18-2006, 07:46 PM
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Re: I have a problem folding sets--44 flop fold
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08-18-2006, 07:53 PM
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Re: I have a problem folding sets--44 flop fold
OK, but this guy's an 18/12
Point: his hand range for this kind of flop is pretty narrow. His last rr shows that he wants it ai. If we aren't folding, I think we're pushing. jrbick
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#7
08-18-2006, 08:14 PM
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Re: I have a problem folding sets--44 flop fold
The argument that folding a set, ever, is a small leak at best, is of course valid. But I still want to play the best poker I can.
For anyone that puts him on a hand we beat, I don't see how. For AhQh, IMO, he'd c/r all in, or c/r big. That's how you get the most FE and value. The bet/3-bet play is for sets and nut straights. I really think that's key here.
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#8
08-19-2006, 03:22 PM
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Re: I have a problem folding sets--44 flop fold
Stop folding sets please, both of those hands, you gave up way to easily
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#10
08-19-2006, 02:56 AM
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Re: I have a problem folding sets--44 flop fold
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