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Old 10-14-2007, 04:34 PM
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Default Re: Absolute Poker\'s Official Response to \"superuser\" allegations

ICfishies once postedd this about Mark Seif:

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I am still amazed and beyond disgusted at what I saw and heard very late last night/early in the morning at Absolute Poker...and I don't even know what to do about it. The irony of this happening the night after my "poker ethics" post is too much, also:

Anyone who has watched the 75/150 game there knows that Mark Seif (who is the site's signature pro and part-owner) has been extremely abusive lately of the other players when he's at the table.......always banning other players' chat in an instant and threatening account closure, etc. He has lost a lot a money at that 75 game (the resident pros consider him the big fish there) and it's been pretty obvious lately that it was starting to get to him more and more.

Anyway......stuckinpgh (my good friend Mike) is one of a handful of high-limit players who have managed to get under Mark's skin in recent weeks. It was evident that Seif was not fond of Mike and would tilt sometimes. Only this time, it turned out to be a lot worse than harmless trash talk.

Last night, Seif was actually having a good session for a few hours at the 75 table. Eventually the game mostly broke up, and it was just Seif and Mike heads up. After some see-saw action, Mike started to get the best of him again and was ahead maybe 4 or 5 k for the HU time, I'd say. At that point, Seif says something like "one second punk"....leaves the table.....then comes back about a minute later and announces "I'm ready to take you down."

Play then started again......and I saw something that I never have before in all my on-line poker play: obvious manipulation. Every hand was a complete dissection based on whatever Mike was holding (third pair was capped by Seif if Mike was behind or bluffing, for example.) About 10 or 12 k was basically stolen in 15 minutes (over maybe 100 hands), and here's the kicker: he was so pissed and beyond rational thinking that he actually wanted Mike to know what was going on! For example, Mike had K9 on one hand and flopped a boat. Seif was first to act after the flop, and FOLDED OUT OF TURN just that time. I had heard that Seif was having some personal problems, but who would've ever guessed that he could be capable of this. Between that possibility and the abuse that he's taken from the pros (in chat, $ lost, and pride lost at the tables), he must've finally snapped and lowered himself THAT much to get some revenge. We were simply stunned, and all Mike could do at the time was leave the game and withdraw the rest of his money (which he did get already.)

I have never played in a game with Mark Seif myself (or ever said a word to him), so none of this information is based on anything personal between him and me. I'm only trying to help out a good friend here and to call some needed attention to what happened. If Seif is capable of this, then it's a scary thought to trust your money to that site. And to think I was just about to deposit to play the 75 game myself.

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What are the odds that Mark Seif is one or more of these accounts?
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Old 10-14-2007, 04:54 PM
2/325Falcon 2/325Falcon is offline
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Default Re: Absolute Poker\'s Official Response to \"superuser\" allegations

Absolute Support,

Just wanted to let you know I deposited on PokerStars today. Enjoy!
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Old 10-14-2007, 05:00 PM
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Absolute Support,

Just wanted to let you know I deposited on PokerStars today. Enjoy!

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big mistake . . . stars is rigged.
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Old 10-14-2007, 05:11 PM
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Default Re: Absolute Poker\'s Official Response to \"superuser\" allegations

Pretty damning evidence.

If Absolute gets blacklisted, shoud UB as well? Aren't they kind of one and the same these days?
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Old 10-14-2007, 05:18 PM
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Pretty damning evidence.

If Absolute gets blacklisted, shoud UB as well? Aren't they kind of one and the same these days?

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Casinomeister already rogued AP but not UB. I made the suggestion both should be rogued since they are essentially the same.
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Old 10-14-2007, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: Absolute Poker\'s Official Response to \"superuser\" allegations

I see that Cardplayer has AP banner ads.

Maybe we should email some of these media sites (Cardplayer,Bluff,G911) and get the story out?
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Old 10-14-2007, 05:25 PM
momo_the_kid momo_the_kid is offline
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right now I just hope stars can do the right thing on their WCOOP investigation. Online poker is already at its lowest point. The integrity of the whole industry is at stake.
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Old 10-14-2007, 05:27 PM
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Online poker is already at its lowest point. The integrity of the whole industry is at stake.


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Suddenly U.S. regulation is sounding like not such a bad thing.
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Old 10-14-2007, 05:38 PM
1p0kerboy 1p0kerboy is offline
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Default Re: Absolute Poker\'s Official Response to \"superuser\" allegations

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Casinomeister already rogued AP

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I looked on their site and AP is listed under the "not recommended" category and not the "rogue" category.

Have they just not made the change yet?
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Old 10-14-2007, 05:41 PM
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Default Re: Absolute Poker\'s Official Response to \"superuser\" allegations

Absolute Poker
Rank 9th
7 day average: 1421 players

Gonna be fun watching this go down.
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