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Old 11-08-2007, 04:51 AM
Superfluous Man Superfluous Man is offline
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Default Re: 3/6nl HU (250bbs). river decisions...

O hey I was the villain in this hand. I think the river decision is pretty easy against how i play in reality (as opposed to how people seem to think I play), but...

Two things:
1) I have a very low opinion of my game, especially heads-up, at the moment. In fact, I was playing this low because I feel like I really, REALLY need to improve HU and I don't want to lose 5/10+ money doing so.
2) This hand took place well before I went on monkey tilt and dropped like 8 buyins because I blow.
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Old 11-08-2007, 04:51 AM
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Default Re: 3/6nl HU (250bbs). river decisions...

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Old 11-08-2007, 04:52 AM
Nat S. Ivey Nat S. Ivey is offline
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Default Re: 3/6nl HU (250bbs). river decisions...

he hax 8x, AJ, AA far too often for u to fold jesus
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Old 11-08-2007, 05:00 AM
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Default Re: 3/6nl HU (250bbs). river decisions...

I don't think I've ever seen a bluff or a worse 8 here and I've played more than a 100k hands heads up and I have never folded in this spot. I have never bluffed here either or pushed with worse. Folding is really tough but should be done especially if you've stayed in line.
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Old 11-08-2007, 05:11 AM
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Default Re: 3/6nl HU (250bbs). river decisions...

in an aggro HU match this is sososo much about game flow. if the game is playing fast and loose and villian almost certainly thinks OP is a huge donk, hes prob mtting, so he does this with any 8.

on the other hand alot of players wont bet the turn with an 8 for pot control, or the game could be going slow, or whatever.

situations like this come down to trusting your hand reading, applying it situationally, and knowing how your image works.
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Old 11-08-2007, 05:47 AM
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Default Re: 3/6nl HU (250bbs). river decisions...

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Hey everyone. I was just wondering what everyone thought of the hand. I'm pretty sure I butchered this river. Leading out seems to be much better, but if I do that do I call a raise?

Some information that may or may not be relevant is I started off with 240$ and ran it up playing pretty aggressive game. He was playing 52/43/3.4 and I was probably playing slightly more hands and more aggressive.


Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (2 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Hero ($1545.50)
BB ($1893.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]], 8[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]. Hero posts a blind of $6.
BB raises to $15, Hero (poster) calls $12.

Flop: ($33) J[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]], 8[[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]], 3[[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] (2 players)
Hero bets $30, BB calls $30.

Turn: ($93) 5[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $66, Hero calls $66.

River: ($225) 8[[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $186, Hero raises to $498, BB raises to $1779.5 (All-In), Hero ????

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He's full, and he's putting you exactly on what you have. Easy fold.
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Old 11-08-2007, 07:13 AM
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Default Re: 3/6nl HU (250bbs). river decisions...

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he hax 8x, AJ, AA far too often for u to fold jesus

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AJ? AA? Turning into a bluff vs a guy he most likely think is a fish? Eehhh...no. K8 type of hand maaaaaybe, I think we lose to pocket 5ers in this hand if we call
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Old 11-08-2007, 07:35 AM
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Default Re: 3/6nl HU (250bbs). river decisions...

i think he is way more likely to bluff given your river line than if you had led out (since you can be bluffing a lot here), but that's just instinct from having played with guys like this.
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Old 11-08-2007, 09:39 AM
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Anyone saying snap fold hasn't played HU vs 54/40 agros....

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this post is atrocious, your basically telling me my stats, yeah I wish your kicker was a little worse... this is still an incredibly easy fold barring rediculous history.
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Old 11-08-2007, 09:41 AM
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Default Re: 3/6nl HU (250bbs). river decisions...

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he hax 8x, AJ, AA far too often for u to fold jesus

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jesus?, what are you like confident or something lmao, I can say with almost 100% certainty that these are the hands he is least likely to shove with.
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