STTF SNG->cash thread

[dipstikdave]

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Thanks Chris and Dave.

What is your rule of thumb for opening/raising pf?

When opening pf is 4xbb + 1bb for every limper too light?

When raising pf should I bet pot + 3 or 4 times the raise or something like that? This is the part am really not sure about (post flop I know how to pot it, but pf poting is not enough and is even less than I was betting).

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i usually raise 2x pot pf.

[Jshuttlesworth]

villain is a reg, it seems (not totally sure, I just moved to this level). His stats are 23/20/4.5. Thoughts on all streets? I know flop and turn are non-standard, but I'm mostly wondering about river.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($242)
Button ($206.40)
SB ($204)
BB ($204.35)
UTG ($191)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $27</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls $19.

Flop: ($57) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($57) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: ($57) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $50</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $164</font>

[cakewalk]

i'd probably call. i really can't see him waiting 3 streets to make a move with a range you're behind

[Jshuttlesworth]

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i'd probably call. i really can't see him waiting 3 streets to make a move with a range you're behind

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ya my thoughts exactly... ty for the response. 555 good.

[djj6835]

Jshuttlessworth,
Who is villain? This is sort of weird bc villain really shouldn't be cr bluffing here bc your hand looks a lot like tt or something just trying to check it down. I honestly think this is either jj/qq (although I would expect those hand to bet the river) or some other marginal pair like 99 or kq that villain was trying to check down but realized it was no good when you bet the river. Maybe call but bc I think the latter is more likely than the former given the action leading up to the river but I wouldn't be too happy about it bc people rarely cr bluff the river.

[Jshuttlesworth]

hey djj,
thanks for the response. villain was "kapie123" on stars. I agree with everything you said in your post. My first instinct was to call, but it's so often the case that river CR = the nuts like always. But I thought that any real hand would have to throw out at least a river bet trying to get a crying call from whatever I had (99/TT or something)

[Slim Pickens]

BB is a decent regular. 23/18/3/3.1 over 200 hands. I've seen him 3-bet a flop and fold to a push against someone else.


Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $246.45
Hero: $214.65
Button: $218.20
SB: $223.35
BB: $383.40

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $6</font>, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($13, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $10</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $30</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $113</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $208.65</font>

[cakewalk]

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BB is a decent regular. 23/18/3/3.1 over 200 hands. I've seen him 3-bet a flop and fold to a push against someone else.


Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $246.45
Hero: $214.65
Button: $218.20
SB: $223.35
BB: $383.40

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $6</font>, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($13, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $10</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $30</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $113</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $208.65</font>

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yep

[Slim Pickens]

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BB is a decent regular. 23/18/3/3.1 over 200 hands. I've seen him 3-bet a flop and fold to a push against someone else.


Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $246.45
Hero: $214.65
Button: $218.20
SB: $223.35
BB: $383.40

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $6</font>, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($13, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $10</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $30</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $113</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $208.65</font>

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yep

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Like, I should really even think about that one, right?

[cakewalk]

i wouldnt..you've got KT, QT, JT, QJ, KJ