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Old 06-18-2007, 10:37 PM
Hood_88 Hood_88 is offline
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Default Is this call -EV? (WRONG FORUM MODS PLEASE MOVE)

(WRONG FORUM mods please move!!)
I know my RR should have been more, but anyway onto the hand...

Only been at the table a few hands, but Villain(s) appeared slightly loose but hadn't seen them do a great deal.

I figured his minraise was either a weak attempt to steal or he wanted to sweeten the pot with a monster hand, so I re-raised for info (should of bet more in retrospect). His check behind me on the turn really convinced me that he didn't have much of a hand; if he had turned a full house I figured he would of bet it. The river only completed straits for 35 and 68 and I really didn't put him on either of those hands after my PFR, so his river bet really looked like a bluff.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (4 handed) internettexasholdem.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB ($20.35)
<font color="#C00000">UTG ($23.45)</font>
Button ($7.75)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($31.05)</font>

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, BB calls $0.75, UTG calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.5</font>, BB calls $1.50, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5.5</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $2.50.

Turn: ($15.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks.

River: ($15.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $7.25</font>, Hero calls $7.25.

Final Pot: $30

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG showed [4s Ah] and lost with two pair, Sevens and Fours
Hero has Js Qh (two pair, queens and sevens).
Outcome: Hero wins $30. </font>
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Old 06-18-2007, 11:30 PM
Claunchy Claunchy is offline
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Default Re: Is this call -EV? (WRONG FORUM MODS PLEASE MOVE)

Your flop bet is too small for starters. On this dry board, you don't need to bet too huge, but at least $2.

Ignoring the size of your 3-bet, 3-betting that flop is really bad anyway. There aren't really any draws out there for villain to have (65 is the only one really), so 3-betting just makes bluffs fold and hands that beat you call/shove. Call the raise and reeval the turn.
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Old 06-19-2007, 12:41 AM
Hood_88 Hood_88 is offline
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Default Re: Is this call -EV? (WRONG FORUM MODS PLEASE MOVE)

Is 3-betting still wrong considering this is a 3-way pot? If I had called the BB would have been getting pretty good odds to draw even with just middle pair, which, in this case, would have been bad with the turn.
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Old 06-19-2007, 08:57 PM
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Default Re: Is this call -EV? (WRONG FORUM MODS PLEASE MOVE)

any comments on final call?
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Old 06-19-2007, 09:29 PM
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Default Re: Is this call -EV? (WRONG FORUM MODS PLEASE MOVE)

this hand is hilarious, thanks for the laugh.

seriously, don't 3bet flop. either fold or call. calling river is good.
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