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Old 10-19-2007, 06:35 PM
RikaKazak RikaKazak is offline
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Default Re: PokerStars: Allow Datamining

My guess is the real reason stars stopped dataming isn't to prevent regs from the info, but to stop sites like sharkscope from posting the LOL lossrates of some fish

After all, even a winning player like myself doesn't like random joe blow knowing my EXACT winrate all the time...especialy when they randomly hit me up on tilt and are like, ZOMG WHY DID YOU HAVE SUCH A BAD YESTERDAY? are you the SUX NOW??
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Old 10-19-2007, 06:35 PM
blackize blackize is offline
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Default Re: PokerStars: Allow Datamining

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this is a "only if you agree you can post" thread?

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No you [censored] tard. This thread is for those who understand what datamining is and does. You don't now STFU.

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Datamining had NOTHING to do with the disclosure of the scandal.

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Again you don't know [censored] you stupid [censored].

Datamining was responsible for finding the chipdumping on absolute. Datamining was responsible for finding the bots on Party and Full Tilt.
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Old 10-19-2007, 06:39 PM
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Default Re: PokerStars: Allow Datamining

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We figured out there was cheating going on well before the full hand history log came out.

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figured out thanks to datamining?
STFU yourself when you don't know what you are talking about.



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Datamined hands really aren't that valuable for figuring out what a river checkraise means from a specific opponent

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did you ever had more than 1.000 hands for a single opponent? Dod you ever see some stats?
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Old 10-19-2007, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: PokerStars: Allow Datamining

Go sit in a casino and do your datamining. Oh thats right you cant do that so why online. Get a life you dont need someone to hold your hand while you play.
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Old 10-19-2007, 06:41 PM
sethypooh21 sethypooh21 is offline
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Default Re: PokerStars: Allow Datamining

A possible downside - wouldn't large scale datamining make building a better bot easier?

That said, I really don't care either way.
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Old 10-19-2007, 06:42 PM
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It's very clear what his motives are. He wants to prevent cheating similar to that which has been brought to light recently with the help of dataminers.

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HA HA HA

If he want's to test someone he can use serch function and datamine him.


If he doesn't datamine like 50+ tables the PokerStars won't tell a single thing.

I repeat:
If he doesn't datamine like 50+ tables the PokerStars won't tell a single thing.

As of high stakes: you can datamine ALL tables of a single level without any problem.
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Old 10-19-2007, 06:42 PM
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Dear PokerStars,
with the recent Absolute scandals, it's clear that online poker has had its reputation take a hit. Unfortunately, one bad egg does reflect on the whole industry. However, Poker Stars has always stood out as being above the rest. Poker Stars can continue to maintain their lofty perch by allowing unfettered datamining. Only by observing the tables and hands, can players help the internet poker community out by noticing conspicuous activities.

In the last year, hand histories have been used to show the following:
-The whole absolute cheating and chipdumping of hundreds of thousands of dollars
-Bot-farms on Full Tilt
-Bots in the $22 SNGs on Party

Come on poker stars, open it up. Let us help you maintain your reputation.

Sincerely,
a concerned online player

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Completely agree, and I've never been fond of datamining.

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Old 10-19-2007, 06:43 PM
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After all, even a winning player like myself doesn't like random joe blow knowing my EXACT winrate all the time...especialy when they randomly hit me up on tilt and are like, ZOMG WHY DID YOU HAVE SUCH A BAD YESTERDAY? are you the SUX NOW??

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Old 10-19-2007, 06:45 PM
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Default Re: PokerStars: Allow Datamining

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A possible downside - wouldn't large scale datamining make building a better bot easier?

That said, I really don't care either way.

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More than that! Bot's cannot operate without a database.

BOTs dont have anything like a "common sense" = they cannot think without it.
Of course I don't suppose someone would program a real AI just to play poker [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 10-19-2007, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: PokerStars: Allow Datamining

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sit in a casino and do your datamining. Oh thats right you cant do that so why online. Get a life you dont need someone to hold your hand while you play.

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Go sit at 8 tables at your local B&M, go tip ur online dealers and go order a drink from your online waitress. Good logic guy, [censored] troll.
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