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Old 09-10-2007, 01:25 PM
pethie pethie is offline
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Default Re: combo draw vs good reg

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the 3bet line would look like
110-350-1000 with the pot being 140
Meaning that i put 1800$ with my 3bet in to win 500$ direct.

If the pot would have been 180$:
150-480-1200/shove
There`s a diference of 150 dead $.

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There is a difference, but that doesnt mean that you shouldnt do it.
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Old 09-10-2007, 02:01 PM
warrantofice warrantofice is offline
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I thought everyone learned not to be the only person calling a raise from the sb with suited cards, oh there connecting...So the basics, your calling a raise OOP against a MP raiser. Your hand 45s, so you no high card strength. Your basically looking to hit a flush draw or straight draw. So your calling a raise OOP to potentially draw to a straight or a flush?
Wow, your hit your flush draw, and your first idea is to bet out for a little more than 1/2 the pot? Suprise, you get reraised and you call...strong. You didn't hit your flush on the turn, but you also picked up a gut shot straight draw. You check, villian put in a large bet and prices you out of a +ev call. hmmmm.

So what you could do better.
1. Fold your hand preflop.
2. Reraised preflop.
3. Check raise the flop large (committing yourself).
4. Check the flop and evalute bet size.
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Old 09-10-2007, 02:54 PM
Dean Moriarty Dean Moriarty is offline
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Default Re: combo draw vs good reg

Preflop is fine.

3-betting light isn't the only way to exploit loose opens, nor is it necessarily the best one. The only reason many people adhere to the "3-bet or fold" philosophy is because it's ridic. simple and fairly effective against non-adapting opponents (everyone plays the same, more or less).

People wonder why recallme is winning at these stakes. What if he accidentally stumbled across a counterstrategy that enables him to hold his own among those with "superior" analytical skills?
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Old 09-10-2007, 03:05 PM
Jinx Jinx is offline
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Default Re: combo draw vs good reg

he folds if he has air, which seems possible
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Old 09-10-2007, 03:34 PM
HaiaN HaiaN is offline
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Default Re: combo draw vs good reg

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Preflop is fine.

3-betting light isn't the only way to exploit loose opens, nor is it necessarily the best one. The only reason many people adhere to the "3-bet or fold" philosophy is because it's ridic. simple and fairly effective against non-adapting opponents (everyone plays the same, more or less).

People wonder why recallme is winning at these stakes. What if he accidentally stumbled across a counterstrategy that enables him to hold his own among those with "superior" analytical skills?

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Guys, stop flaming recallme, I like his threads!
He plays differently from the majority of winning players at these stakes which does not necessarily mean that he plays worse!
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Old 09-10-2007, 05:39 PM
recallme recallme is offline
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Default Re: combo draw vs good reg

I am def. not among the best HSNl, but i think i could be a 5BB/100 winner.
I have no superior skills, but i think Dean made a good point: There are more ways to play a hand profitable.

If i 3bet 45s here i have to cbet, which costs me a lot.
I am calling with AT or Kj hee sometimes, too.
Just mixing it up here.

This hand really went terrible.
Honestyl b/3bet here is idiotic imho, but after analyzing i could see the possibility of c/r/4bet.

I doubt that he has lots of air here, but on the other side there aren`t that mayn hands he can comfortabley call with.
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