IntelliPoker -Pokerstars plans to educate the fish?

[Josem]

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They don't have an obligation to us, but it is in THEIR best interest.

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how?

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WOW, A poster with ZERO IQ. Congrats...

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huh?

Poster claims that PokerStars benefit from their players being bad poker players.

I ask how this is so.

I am then accused of having zero IQ.


wtf?

[William]

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They don't have an obligation to us, but it is in THEIR best interest.

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how?

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WOW, A poster with ZERO IQ. Congrats...

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huh?

Poster claims that PokerStars benefit from their players being bad poker players.

I ask how this is so.

I am then accused of having zero IQ.


wtf?

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You asked how it could be in PS interest to educate players. Obviously you meant something else.
I retract my congratulations. It seems we haven't found the first human being with ZERO IQ [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[Mischman]

Its good for PokerStars......obv, thats a no brainer....

I don't know how people can compare FTP e-mailing out 1 stupid article every other week to a full website with.....blog,s rankings, videos, forums, lessons from pros, etc.


I don't know how people can compare 2+2., P5s, Cardrunners, etc to this. These sites are hidden away and not going to be shown on commercials or advertised on a Pokerstars pop up every time you log in to the software.

I used to be a donk, i can prbly still be considered a donk but when i found out about poker message boards, i started to read them and learn and went from a losing(lost several hundred) to a small winning player. I can hold my own in a SNG or ring game and not just get completely abused.

How many people thought a gambling bill would effect PokerStars this much? You dont think a poker school will do any harm.....?

I dont see why anyone would be for helping the fish learn at all.....

[Josem]

while it is self-evident that any poker player would rather win than lose (and, to help that, would like their opponents to be less good) I cannot understand how people get so indignant about pokerstars helping players to play better.

no one has an exclusive right to play good poker.


p.s. i think i may have been unclear in my earlier posts. hopefully this is cleared up now.

[spkid]

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Bad player sees morans chatting up their stats, sites, and berating them and thinks "this really isnt very fun, and apparently there are people who take this very seriously and I'm really not up to that. Secret Handshake [censored]."

In short, the more you mention 2+2 the more likely 1) you alienate players thru berating or intimidation 2) some will actively seek to improve and realize there are players taking it seriously and 3) others will view it as some secret handshake society of colluders.


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I really agree with this and think people should start thinking about it. The initial reaction to being berated and humiliated may be tilt and blow off your whole stack, maybe even buy in again and drop another stack.

Long term, however, I think poor players are OK with losing their money considering it a hobby or such... But no one wants to be called a "donk", "moran", etc. everytime they draw out on you.

And #3 above is a really good point. When I have told friends that I play online (and my freinds have been playing 7-stud in home games all of their lives) and how easy, convenient, and fun it is their first reaction is "don't you worry about being cheated?"

Many people don't play online for that reason alone, fear of being at a table with 2 or 3 people that are colluding on the telephone or AIM...

It really annoys me when some jackass starts telling someone "you know you've lost x amount of dollars since 2006, or you play 62% of your starting hands!" Why the hell would your use your Pokertracker stats to tip someone off that you have "information". Most of these people probably don't even know that programs like PT even exist.

[Elvis57]

I hope PS turns on the doom switch for you with sending that stupid email. OMG get a life or learn the game if you are so afraid. All it will do is bring more fish into the game. Big plus for PS++++++++++++++++

[Mischman]

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I hope PS turns on the doom switch for you with sending that stupid email. OMG get a life or learn the game if you are so afraid. All it will do is bring more fish into the game. Big plus for PS++++++++++++++++

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Thank you, were now on page 2.

I'm stupid and need to get a life cause im agaisnt a poker school.....what does it mean for you to actually believe there is a doomswitch? you really believe that....'OMG GET A LIFE'

[dlk9s]

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I am not against the poker schools under the ".nets," but it should be illegal to offer strategy stuffs (some detailed) on the .com sites, like starting hands by position, if it's a raised pot or not, and how to play post-flop. FullTilt even sends stuff like that on emails. It's next to the same thing as going to any casino and there being those on papers or so, like a Blackjack basic strategy (I think some sites have those too offered), or even the dealer telling what hands to play and recommends folding post-flop in a variety of situations.

It's supposed to be a neutral place and not some place where one's competition is improved; it goes under the name "collusion." If the casino itself wants to collude against itself (e.g. Blackjack), that's its own business, but it has no moral right to collude with the worse players, educate our competition; it took me some years to find and learn stuff that's offered on some .com sites - that's stealing time, money and energy from me. Under better laws I would win the case against them and get compensations.

Offline (and online) casinos may have poker books that they sell on their possible stores; that's not as bad but should also not be done. As an argument I could, when playing poker there, sometimes offer basic strategy cards for e.g. Blackjack players, and there's nothing the casino can do about it (though they could kick me out but the law will protect me, though it's not what usually is done, but one should just go to the police as all one did was offering basic strategy cards for some other fellow players). Stuff like that is usually the only way to do anything about things that are against my rights when the laws won't protect me. There's maybe nothing I can do about the online casinos here.

p.s. I would like to see the site rake tables also showing the average rake per hour, or so, one is paying playing this or that limit. But the only sites that are a sort of doing that are the ones offering more or less rakefree games. Now, what kind of a business is not saying how much it costs for its customers to play there? That's the single most important information that should be posted on their sites. Not posting it is illegal, as it's stealing, though not under the current laws.

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This is one of the dumbest posts I have read in a long time. I am sitting at my computer slackjawed right now.

[Elvis57]

LOL no i dont but you must if you think a online school is going to hurt your game.

[Adebisi]

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Ridiculous thing to worry about. By this logic, Sklansky, Jones, Harrington, Brunson, etc should never have written their books, since "educating the fish" would tend to make games tougher.

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I'm not sure what you're trying to say here, but games ARE a lot tougher than they used to be. At any reasonable stakes online, the majority of players have some clue regarding how to play. This wasn't always the case. 5 or 6 years ago, there would be like 2-3 decent players and 7-8 drooling retards at the highest stakes games the sites had.