casino supervision question

[PokerCad]

Question for any Floor/ Casino supervisors or direction towards such

Reached burn-out stage in current occupation (Operations manager of a small/mid size manufacturing company), anyway, looking for a career change. Curious if any of you guys are involved in the supervision/floor end of the casino business and are able to give me some simple feedback as to whether or not this is even worth pursuing.

PM me with thoughts and/of comments

PS: if this is a usesless post, feel free to flame away

[FCBLComish]

Most floor supervisors have to have some experience as a dealer. This would be the direction I would take. I have over 20 years in the business, feel free to PM me for more info.

[Chipr777]

I have yet to meet a floor that didn't have a couple years in at least of dealing experience. I'm sure there are a few out there but the casino business is one that tends to have to be learned hands on. Dealing is the convenient way to get your feet wet.

[Terry]

Old pit boss here, 20+ years in the business.

Unless you know somebody, some dealing time is the only way. With the huge expansion of the business it doesn't take as long as it used to.

To put you on the floor, the boss has to know you and trust you. That takes a while. Strong schmoozing skills can replace experience in some situations.

It has nothing to do with seniority, and being a good dealer doesn't mean much either. Many floor people got the job because they were poor dealers but the boss liked them. A lot of floor jobs go to pretty young women who have only one qualification ... maybe two.

In the better places the dealers make more money than the floor people. People there choose to go on the floor only after they simply can't stand being nose to nose with the players any longer.

Turn over and burn-out is very high. I've heard it said that 60% of the people who move to Las Vegas to work in a casino leave within a year and 60% of those who make the first year leave during their second. Those who do stay have no job security whatever.

Typically, there is no training for a floorman; a dealer is told "Wear a suit tomorrow. We're gonna try you out on the floor." He gets a five minute introduction to the paper work and is thrown in to sink or swim. Hence the commonly heard "On the floor and out the door."

Casino work is not 9 to 5 Monday through Friday. Most people work nights. Nobody has Saturday and Sunday off. Everybody works Christmas, New Years, Memorial Day, etc., even if it is their normally scheduled day off.

Working different shifts and having different days off are brutal on relationships, even without taking into consideration the temptations of free round the clock cocktails and their servers (everything you have ever heard about Las Vegas cocktail waitresses is true).

Pretty tempting, huh?

[pokerfloor]

The money sucks
If my hands could take it I'd go back to dealing
after 20 years it's hard to change jobs