valuebet 4-flush board w TPNK (93o :) ) HU IP

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Loosepassive opponents as usual.
Is this river valuebet or check behind?
There isn't much difference holding AA (no diamond) and 93o in this river spot, right?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, MP calls, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: (3.00 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#FF0000">MP bets</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.00 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, MP folds, SB calls.

River: (5.00 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero ??

[vixticator]

Check. I'd value bet trips though. Too thin and you have no kicker as played. Not sure if A9 is a vb or not, close.

[BadBigBabar]

i check

[Mitke]

No Clarkmeister b/f vs predictable loose-passive?

Hmm. He'd need to have and call w/4x, 33,66-88. He could ahve been drawing to the gutshot w/Ax but is he loose enough to call A-high - maybe not.

Will he fold better nine? Maybe, probably not often. He's not going to fold a set nor a small flush if he's very loose.

Dunno, maybe check is best although I think folding the a raise is eeeasy.

[BadBigBabar]

it's not a clarkmeister, b/c we're in position

[neurotiq]

I'd check behind here

[neurotiq]

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No Clarkmeister b/f vs predictable loose-passive?

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Clarkmeister is applied when we're out of position; that's not the case here.

[Mitke]

Maybe I remember the Clarkmeister this time... thanks for reminding me - again.



The reason for checking behind here is that we are not good 50% when called (he might not call w/4x, or 66-88 and probably not with A-high on such a scary board) and the LPP villain won't fold enough better hands to compensate.

[Fadook]

Really easy check behind. Not only has that river put a 4 flush on the board, it's paired one of the flop cards.

[Sushiglutton]

Since you are behind a random hand don't see a value-bet

ext results appended to pokerstove.txt

990 games 0.157 secs 6,305 games/sec

Board: 2d 5d 4d 9d 5s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.576% 46.77% 00.81% 463 8.00 { 9h3s }
Hand 1: 52.424% 51.62% 00.81% 511 8.00 { random }