Two pair against strangehold (400nl)

snakekilla88 · #1 04-30-2007, 04:56 AM

Villain is strangehold. Plays sort of wierd but seems like a semidecent tagg. We have 2 semi-interesting hands here that might explain our history better then I can explain it...
http://www.pokerhand.org/?1048930
http://www.pokerhand.org/?1048932

So I kind of have the overbet incorporated into my game versus him. So other then this I have been pretty tight and have not messed around much with him for the past 20 to 30 minutes.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG ($401.05)
MP ($912.25)
Button ($143.40)
Hero ($1442.10)
BB ($400)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises to $16, 1 fold, Hero raises to $58, 1 fold, MP calls $42.

Flop: ($120) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $80, MP calls $80.

Turn: ($280) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks (???), MP checks.

River: ($280) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero...

Should I bet here? How much should I bet? Good spot to throw in an overbet given history? If I bet and he ends up pushing over do I just barf and fold...? Check/call or check/fold horrible here?

craig1120 · #2 04-30-2007, 05:10 AM

C/C sucks. Bet/fold I think. Don't know villain well though.

BobboFitos · #3 04-30-2007, 05:15 AM

lol snake i dont get hand 1 w/ 85. nothing pot...

i also view him differently, he's a bad lag i think.

this is tough / interesting bc you're deep, if it was 100bb id value shove. as is, i am not sure. i think an overbet here is somewhat fishy though, even with your "history" (neither history involves reraised pots)

snakekilla88 · #4 04-30-2007, 05:15 AM

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lol snake i dont get hand 1 w/ 85. nothing pot

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yeah no doubt the first hand is really really bad but it made me look like a retard for future hands. Also I guess my read is off about him.

do you think he is clever enough to bluff/raise me here...? I mean I've been in similiar spots where I know some players are capaple of pushing over here as a bluff. Should I be worried about that at 2/4?

Ansky · #5 04-30-2007, 05:22 AM

220

Allinlife · #6 04-30-2007, 05:22 AM

pretty bad spot to thin value-overbet bottom 2 here. just bet most you think he'll bet with Jx..180~220ish looks good

fitnessfreak · #7 04-30-2007, 05:23 AM

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do you think some 2/4 players are clever enough to bluff/raise me here...?

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some good 2/4 players would try to bluff/raise you here, but this villian does not seem like the type to do so. i would bet about 215 and fold to a raise. he has shown from the QJ hand that he's willing to call you down light so i would think he will likely pay you off with top pair or some lower pp's.

PerDoom · #8 04-30-2007, 06:36 AM

If he's dumb enough to call you with TT there on the river in hand 2, super easy bet here.

ogdundar · #9 04-30-2007, 06:58 AM

Easy valuebet.

pdoran10 · #10 04-30-2007, 07:09 AM

id say just based on my play with him earlier tonight that this is a bet fold. I dont think he is sophisticated or aggressive enough to bluff raise you here. He seems to have a pretty wide range at all times and i think there are plenty of 1 pair hands that pay you off here.