turn decision

[nazahl]

giving 200nl another go tonight, hopefully permanently.

villain is 23/20/2.4 wtsd - 16%

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $135.25
SB: $320.55
Hero (BB): $199
UTG: $147
MP: $56
CO: $64.85

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
4 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $6</font>, Hero calls $4

Flop: ($12) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $10</font>, Hero calls $10

Turn: ($32) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $24</font>, Hero ...?

not really planning on folding... more a question of weighing the benefits between raising and calling

[Hercules]

call down regardless, no worse hand is calling a raise.
Raising the flop vs an aggro SB might be an option, but thats about it imho

[bung]

aren't we behind his range here, or is folding too weak tight because its bvb?

[TPTK77]

I like a call down. If you raise on the turn, there are a lot of hands that he should 3 bet shove with such as a pair/flush draw, bigger pairs, J10. I think it's best to just call down and try to get to a showdown. If you're faced a big bet on the river, I think I would fold even though its bvb b/c I'd rather not 1/2 stack off with a single pair on that dangerous board.

[markuisis]

Calling down is best imo, fold to a diamond river but call down the rest, i think u will c 89 sometimes, aj quite a bit but also some diamond draws, kq and some worst jacks (i dont think villain ever has j10 or a set here). ppl saying he will 3bet shove combo draws etc. should realize hes raising flop far more often than turn with them.

[Paul McSwizzle]

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Calling down is best imo, fold to a diamond river but call down the rest, i think u will c 89 sometimes, aj quite a bit but also some diamond draws, kq and some worst jacks (i dont think villain ever has j10 or a set here). ppl saying he will 3bet shove combo draws etc. should realize hes raising flop far more often than turn with them.

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You think he has the diamond draw often enough to fold to any diamond river?

[nazahl]

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call down regardless, no worse hand is calling a raise.
Raising the flop vs an aggro SB might be an option, but thats about it imho

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well if we plan on calling down regardless and assume villain will continue betting 2/3 pot, we'll be facing a river bet of about $50-55.

considering how draw heavy the board is, wouldnt we be better off putting in that 50 by raising the turn for a free sd/charging draws instead of calling a river bet?

also, consider that the 7 on the turn completed one of the obvious draws on the flop so its not inconceivable that villain would fold a better hand.

[Pat Southern]

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(i dont think villain ever has j10 or a set here).

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Why?

[nazahl]

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aren't we behind his range here, or is folding too weak tight because its bvb?

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lol, yeah cant fold the turn here. sorry

[sharpyetblunt]

i just call this down. I think raising just puts you in a more difficult spot. i wouldnt want to be playing a big pot with this hand and raising wouldnt really chase out much on this board