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06-14-2007, 02:46 PM
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bottom two -- nl cash
i'm playing aggressive preflop and postflop. opponent has pretty standard calling requirements on the turn/river; he won't push light (prob not pushing pair+fd on turn, won't checkraise bluff the river).
effective stacks 450 i raise 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] otb to 12. he calls. flop (24) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] he checks. i check. turn (24) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] he leads for 24. i raise to 90. he calls. river (204) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] he checks. i? 
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#5
06-14-2007, 03:31 PM
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Re: bottom two -- nl cash
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You have to bet that flop. I like your turn play. I check behind on that river unless villain has shown a history of calling light. [/ QUOTE ] You definitely do NOT have to bet that flop. I think checking behind is very reasonable and putting in like a 1/3 pot is reasonable as well Id probably bet because you know your never getting bluffed out.
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#6
06-14-2007, 04:26 PM
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Re: bottom two -- nl cash
I don't follow the reasoning behind checking behind on that flop... your hand is going to get worse 43 cards out of 47, and scarily better an additional 2 cards (3 or 4 of clubs).
You're betting flop to take down the pot right there and/or set up a double barrel on a blank turn.
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#7
06-14-2007, 04:31 PM
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Re: bottom two -- nl cash
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I don't follow the reasoning behind checking behind on that flop... your hand is going to get worse 43 cards out of 47, and scarily better an additional 2 cards (3 or 4 of clubs). You're betting flop to take down the pot right there and/or set up a double barrel on a blank turn. [/ QUOTE ] Theres a very small range of better hands you fold out, you dont have anything you need to protect and you get pushed off your hand by draws a lot which is why I check this flop a lot here.
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#8
06-14-2007, 04:48 PM
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Re: bottom two -- nl cash
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[ QUOTE ] I don't follow the reasoning behind checking behind on that flop... your hand is going to get worse 43 cards out of 47, and scarily better an additional 2 cards (3 or 4 of clubs). You're betting flop to take down the pot right there and/or set up a double barrel on a blank turn. [/ QUOTE ] Theres a very small range of better hands you fold out, you dont have anything you need to protect and you get pushed off your hand by draws a lot which is why I check this flop a lot here. [/ QUOTE ] You absolutely have something to protect here, you have a pair HU. 2/3rds of the time he has nothing here. If you want to be conservative about it and figure in a tight OOP raise calling range, you are still ahead of more than half his range. I disagree vehemently on many levels that checking this flop is good.
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#9
06-14-2007, 05:32 PM
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Re: bottom two -- nl cash
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I don't follow the reasoning behind checking behind on that flop... your hand is going to get worse 43 cards out of 47, and scarily better an additional 2 cards (3 or 4 of clubs). You're betting flop to take down the pot right there and/or set up a double barrel on a blank turn. [/ QUOTE ] Theres a very small range of better hands you fold out, you dont have anything you need to protect and you get pushed off your hand by draws a lot which is why I check this flop a lot here. [/ QUOTE ] You absolutely have something to protect here, you have a pair HU. 2/3rds of the time he has nothing here. If you want to be conservative about it and figure in a tight OOP raise calling range, you are still ahead of more than half his range. I disagree vehemently on many levels that checking this flop is good. [/ QUOTE ] You dont have anything to protect because you can easily be pushed off of it by worse hands and your not willing to put a lot of money in with it.
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