Official MNF Football Broncos vs. Jesus + The Titans

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The bowl game was just the icing on the cake. He only lost 2 games at UT as a starter.

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if one of a million things played out differently in that Rose Bowl and USC had won Leinart would have finished with 1 loss his entire career as a starter and VY would have finished with 3, but no one really considers Leinart one of the top 10 college players of all time.

[mirrorman]

if if if if if if if if if

IF I HAD A MILLION DOLLARS

I'D BUY YOU A FUR COAT

BUT NOT A REAL FUR COAT- THAT'S CRUEL.

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if if if if if if if if if

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you're an idiot you don't even know what i'm saying . leinart still finished with the same record as a starter as VY and he played an overall tougher schedule over his entire career. again this doesn't mean anything. leinart is not considered top 10 of the greatest college players nor should he be. you need more criteria than this before you start crowning vy

[capone0]

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The bowl game was just the icing on the cake. He only lost 2 games at UT as a starter.

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if one of a million things played out differently in that Rose Bowl and USC had won Leinart would have finished with 1 loss his entire career as a starter and VY would have finished with 3, but no one really considers Leinart one of the top 10 college players of all time.

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Leinart had a Heisman winning back in his backfield. Another back who scored god knows how many touchdowns. Numerous WRs who are now in the pros. Young was surrounded by some very good talent but I don't think anyone is going to argue Young's was better than Leinarts.

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The bowl game was just the icing on the cake. He only lost 2 games at UT as a starter.

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if one of a million things played out differently in that Rose Bowl and USC had won Leinart would have finished with 1 loss his entire career as a starter and VY would have finished with 3, but no one really considers Leinart one of the top 10 college players of all time.

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Leinart had a Heisman winning back in his backfield. Another back who scored god knows how many touchdowns. Numerous WRs who are now in the pros. Young was surrounded by some very good talent but I don't think anyone is going to argue Young's was better than Leinarts.

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capone i'm not trying to argue leinart should be considered better than vy, just that win loss records don't paint the whole story

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From wikipedia, some of VY's accolades:

# 2006 - ESPY Award for Best Championship Performance. Vince Young and Matt Leinart jointly accepted the ESPY for the Best Game for their respective teams.[3][4]
# 2006 - Big 12 Male Athlete of the Year (for 2005-2006 scholastic year)
# 2006 - The Incedent He peed on his wife.
# 2006 - Manning Award winner
# 2006 - Rose Bowl MVP (at end of 2005 season)
# 2005 - Heisman Trophy finalist and runner-up
# 2005 - The Cingular All-America Player of the Year Award

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...by_Vince_Young

[mirrorman]

win/loss records don't mean everything, but you guys seemed to be giving VY credit for only one game, so i threw his record out there

[Jay Riall]

hhahahahahahahaha

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... why did they go for it on 4th and 2? VY probably had nothing to do with it.

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I could easily make the opposite argument, VY wasn't good so they weren't scared about giving him a short field.