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Old 10-11-2007, 09:56 PM
Red_Diamond Red_Diamond is offline
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Default How differently would you have played this?

I suffered quite a beat here, but I'm curious (not being results oriented) how differently would some of you have played this?

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7 Card Stud High ($1/$2), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $0.50 (converter)

3rd Street - (2.00 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 2: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds
Seat 3: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 5: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 7: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 8: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls

4th Street - (8.50 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets___calls___folds
Seat 3: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls___double-raises___calls
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___double-raises___double-raises
Seat 6: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls___folds
Seat 7: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls___folds
Seat 8: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds

5th Street - (15.75 BB)

Seat 3: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___raises___raises___calls
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets___raises___raises

6th Street - (25.75 BB)

Seat 3: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets___raises
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises___calls

River - (31.75 BB)

Seat 3: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___bets
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls

Total pot: (33.75 BB)

Results (in white):<font color="white">

Total pot $67.50 Main pot $64.50 Rake $3

Seat 3: [4c 4d 4s 8d 8h 9h 3c] (A Full House, Fours full of Eights)

Hero: [Tc 5s 5h 5c Qh 9d 7d]

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Old 10-11-2007, 10:14 PM
Mathew82 Mathew82 is offline
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Default Re: How differently would you have played this?

Looks like you played it perfectly, just bad luck...
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:16 AM
Andy B Andy B is offline
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Default Re: How differently would you have played this?

When you jam fourth, you're telling the other guy that you can beat trip Fours. He doesn't seem to care. I think you should slow down somewhat sooner, perhaps some time on fifth.
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Old 10-12-2007, 06:39 AM
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Default Re: How differently would you have played this?

As soon as I saw fifth street I thought that 8 probably filled him up. You've told him you can beat trip 4s. He is still raising you, so most likely he filled up. I would slow down immediately on fifth street. But please don't post results. If you hadn't posted results I would speculate about this and say that this is what I think, but now I feel much surer because you posted the results.

I don't agree with Andy B that "he doesn't seem to care" on 4th street. Your first raise certainly doesn't signal that you have trips yet, just a good hand. When Villain reraises he tells you he has trip 4s, when you reraise you tell him you can beat trip 4s. Of course he has to call the cap there...
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:32 PM
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Default Re: How differently would you have played this?

Five bets went in on fifth. I'm guessing that this is whatever site has no cap heads-up. The other guy slowed down on fourth because it looked like he was beaten. On fifth, he put his foot to the gas because he improved. At some point, you have to give him credit for a full house, and I think that point probably comes before five bets go in on fifth against most opponents.
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Old 10-13-2007, 01:23 PM
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Default Re: How differently would you have played this?

Well, here is another rolled-up where I missed the opportunity to get some extra bets. Seems I either put more in when I'm behind, or I don't put in enough when I'm ahead. That's just how it goes with me. But he got me confused from the get go.

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3rd Street - (2.00 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises___is all-in $0.15
Seat 2: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___brings-in___calls___calls
Seat 3: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls___raises___calls
Seat 4: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls___calls___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises___raises

4th Street - (20.15 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___all-in
Seat 2: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 3: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets___calls
Seat 4: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls___folds
Hero: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___double-raises

5th Street - (12.58 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___all-in
Seat 3: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Hero: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets

6th Street - (14.58 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___all-in
Seat 3: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___raises
Hero: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets___calls

River - (18.58 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___all-in
Seat 3: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___bets
Hero: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls

Total pot: (20.58 BB)

Results (in white):<font color="white">

Total pot $41.15 Main pot $12.15 Side pot #1 $26.95 | Rake $2.05

Seat 1: [6h 8h Kd 9c 7d As 6c]

Seat 3: [Ah Ad Tc Ts 5s 4s 4c] (Two Pairs, Aces and Tens, Five high)

Hero: [Jh Js Jd Qh 8d 7h 5c] (Three of a kind, Jacks, Queen high)

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At first, I didn't understand his limp re-re-raise with an Ace showing? Either he is:

A. Getting fancy with AA
B. Rolled up AAA getting fancy
C. Misclick before or after.

When he came out betting again on 4'th, I decided to raise again just to make sure it wasn't a misclick, and he eased down a little.

Then we get to the more expensive streets, and I'm check-raised when more striaght cards feel. Hmmm... At this moment I was worried about:

D. Getting fancy early with an ace and 2 low cards, hoping to hit a straight

Naturally, looking at the results now, I was just playing against some weird un-orthodox player suffering from some FPS. Well, he sure had me confused.

P.S. I understand I'm biasing judgements by posting the results, but at the same time, I like to see a whole and complete story.
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Old 10-13-2007, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: How differently would you have played this?

Three-bet sixth. He's got one possible combination for AAA. It's very likely that he had split Aces and has made two pair. If he caps, you might revise your read.
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