1k TStone Hand: Ugly Turn

[KingDan]

25/50 blinds. Good structure
I have about 4400 to start.


I have seen a few flops but not played any big ones. Have isoed limper maybe 2 times. BB has Already cr'ed me once and I folded after a little thought.

Kinda passive guy who has been limping a lot limps in EP. I make it 200 with TJs. BB call limper calls.

Flop is TdJd8 Checked to me I bet 500 BB calls.
Turn is another 8. He checks to me.

I ended up betting 900. He shoved (had me covered) pretty quickly. I've got a bit more than 2600 left and I decide to call.

Reads: Guy is fat, kind of dumb-looking 20-25 year old. I didn't think he had a big hand when he called on the flop.

[THEOSU]

i limp behind with a hand like JTs all day.

this is a nasty turn card to bet, because your hand is more or less reduced to a bluff catcher (well, or an overplayed KJ catcher), so betting seems so very uggo on this board.

[KingDan]

OSU I think being in position is pretty awesome here, especially if it gets HU. C-Bet will take it down quite often.

Plus the times we do hit something having a raised pot is money.

[THEOSU]

dan,

the reason i limp behind here is that the hands that really hit JTss also hit a lot of other limped hands, but not quite as hard. hands that really hit JTss don't hit a ton of hands that cold call raises or limp/call.

btw, a cbet takes it down often, but when we hit it's money? that's kinda conflicting, don't you think?

[Flatlanman3]

as played, you hve to call. I think a lot of weak players would do this with 99 , A9, AJ, QJ, KJ, etc. However, if he had the 8 with a dime draw or an overpair, I dont really know what to say except he played it awful

[KingDan]

OSU,

Cbet doesn't have to work all that often to be profitable. Of the times they don't immediately fold, they probably put way too much money in later streets.

[EC10]

i think you're good here on the turn unless he has 98, which is definitely a possibility. it's pretty close between bet-call and check imo. if i did bet i definitely wouldnt be folding.

[KingDan]

]I think I have to bet turn bc there are so many gay rivers.

[JoeyJoJo Shabadu]

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Reads: Guy is fat, kind of dumb-looking 20-25 year old. I didn't think he had a big hand when he called on the flop.

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I can think of handfuls of pros that your "read" describes, and I would be lunch for all of them.

Call for sure.

[driverseati]

Given that a lot of TS regulars are horrible, I probably call, but not particularly happy about calling. (I probably bet too)