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11-10-2006, 12:21 PM
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Bet 3 bet push 100NL suited connectors .....likey?
I've been thinking more about suited connectors and if playing hands like this is +EV at this level. I know a lot of people will say fold this preflop, and I'm starting to think they are right, but with the small blind calling I thought I was getting a good enough price to see the flop. The flop I have the gutshot and the flush draw, but after his raise I think he is folding like never here. If he was a full stack I might have found a way to get away from this, but not for $60 more. This is just one hand but this is a great flop for my hand, and I'm still not in a great spot vs overpairs.
So I'm basically just trying to hear some thoughts on calling raises with suited connectors from the blinds. I've been doing it and I only run at like 20/12 or around there most of the time, so I'm going to be a complete nit if I stop. Thoughts? any on the hand? Thanks again. Full Tilt Poker No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $0.50/$1 6 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: $77.70 UTG+1: $0 CO: $60.15 Button: $97 SB: $72.85 Hero: $100.60 Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $3.5</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $3 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $5)</font>, Hero calls $2.5 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $8)</font>. Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($10.5, 4 players) SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $9.4</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $30</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $97.1</font>, 
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#3
11-10-2006, 12:44 PM
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Re: Bet 3 bet push 100NL suited connectors .....likey?
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You're in a great spot against overpairs. You're favored over all of them [/ QUOTE ] This is not true. I don't have pokerstove in front of me, but you are more like a 48-52 or a 43-57(if one of his cards is a club). I still don't hate the play. Without running through the calculations, when you push, you definately have odds with the dead money at that point in the hand. This all changes, though, if AcKc, AcQc or TT is within his range. Then you are crushed. If you can put villain exactly on an overpair, then it is marginally +EV with high variance. If you don't have that kind of read, then it is probably -EV or neutral EV at best. The call pf is okay. I often due this with the small blind in there too, but if the stacks were any lower, I never make this call. Even with stack sizes where they are at, it is marginal. Typically, with SC I either want position, or biggish stacks. -Jaxx
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11-10-2006, 12:50 PM
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Re: Bet 3 bet push 100NL suited connectors .....likey?
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Typically calling raises with SC OOP is spew, and a lot of the time it's not-so-good in position either. Here I think it's OK. [/ QUOTE ] Looks fine to me closing the action with a caller already in there. Edit: oops didn't note villains stacksizes. Marginal, but not bad either way imo. Fullstacks and its an easy call pf.
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#8
11-10-2006, 12:58 PM
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Re: Bet 3 bet push 100NL suited connectors .....likey?
The call PF is meh, I'd like it better if stacks were deeper. On the flop, I like a C/R all-in because 1) we have good relative position on the PF raiser, and 2) the B3B line won't have much fold equity because the stacks are so shallow.
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#9
11-10-2006, 12:59 PM
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Re: Bet 3 bet push 100NL suited connectors .....likey?
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The call PF is meh, I'd like it better if stacks were deeper. On the flop, I like a C/R all-in because 1) we have good relative position on the PF raiser, and 2) the B3B line won't have much fold equity because the stacks are so shallow. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure I like this. Even if raiser leads for pot (which is unlikely), our c-r push is a pretty big overbet and will be interpreted nearly all the time as a flush draw.
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