Play a hand with me (NLTRN)

[Dromar]

Some of you may already be familiar with threads like this. For those of you who aren't, this is how it works:

I describe a situation, and the community votes and discusses the best course of action. After a short period of voting/discussion, the action is executed, and the hand continues. Very few options will be chosen automatically, most will be left for voting/discussion.

My goal here is to play through an entire HU NLTRN from beginning to end. This will allow examples of in-depth analysis based on reads gained from earlier in the match. This could be great, and my plan is to update this thread at least daily.

So let's begin.

The setting is $100 HU NLHE tournament. As per the norm in HU tournaments, you've never seen your opponent before.

Hand 1
(SB)Hero 1500
(BB)Villain 1500

Hero posts 10. Villain posts 20. Hero has 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero?

[hra146]

skip this one please and raise

edit: to t60

[Dromar]

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skip this one please and raise

edit: to t60

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I think I can do that.

Hand 1
(SB)Hero 1500
(BB)Villain 1500

Hero posts 10. Villain posts 20. Hero has 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero raises to 60. Villain folds.

Hand 2

(SB)Villain 1480
(BB)Hero 1520

Villain posts 10, Hero posts 20.

Villain raises to t60. Hero has 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

Hero?

[xSCWx]

I think this one is going to be no-contest as well.

[Dromar]

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I think this one is going to be no-contest as well.

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Alright. I wanted to leave room for dissention/discussion just in case though.

Hand 2

(SB)Villain 1480
(BB)Hero 1520

Villain posts 10, Hero posts 20.

Villain raises to t60. Hero has 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero calls.

Flop: Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (pot 120).
Hero?

[jay_shark]

This is going to be tough to pull off . It's much more difficult to do these for heads up games and put forth a generic answer . It's a lot easier to do this for ring games .

What if the button raises 100% of the time . Wouldn't you contemplate re-raising ?

Now what if the button raises 30% of the time ?

[ChicagoRy]

It's first hand, then second hand. You can't use your "100% raiser" or "5% raiser" quick calcs for this one [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[jay_shark]

Alright , fair enough .

I won't be a nit anymore [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Dromar]

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This is going to be tough to pull off . It's much more difficult to do these for heads up games and put forth a generic answer . It's a lot easier to do this for ring games .

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I don't see how it's any more difficult. The ring game examples are simply "play this hand as if you were playing this ring game." This thread is just "play this hand as if you were playing HU."

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What if the button raises 100% of the time . Wouldn't you contemplate re-raising ?

Now what if the button raises 30% of the time ?

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Sure, there are circumstances where raising or folding would be better, but as of yet, we don't know that button is raising 100% or 30%, and there's no reason to assume he is. This is no different than a HU SnG. In a HU SnG, we don't know how often villain raises the btn by the second hand in, but we still have to make decisions. This is just a practice session of that.

This hand with the 3c3d on the Q84r flop is certainly a situation I'm unsure about, and I'd like to hear the 2p2 consensus on the situation. Another thing I'm really interested in is betsizing, since I think I need work in that aspect. Later on, it'll be interesting to get different people's opinions on villains image, how we gave him that image, and what we should do about it.

I think this is just like an analysis of a HH.


That said, I voted to bet the flop on hand 2. Check/fold is too weak (why'd we even call pre?, plus I think he's gonna c-bet this flop a lot). Check/call has some serious reverse-implied-odds problems, since our hand will rarely improve and we're OOP. I honestly don't like betting all that much, but I think it's the best option. I'd bet 75 here. Of course I'm hoping he folds, and I don't see much way to continue with the hand if he calls (which is why I'm not so hot on betting here).

Anyone agree/disagree?

[Dromar]

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Alright .

Well then it should depend on the buy-in as well [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I'm a nit , eh ?

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The setting is $100 NLHE tournament, as stated in the OP.