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Old 11-22-2007, 01:45 PM
Noir_Desir Noir_Desir is offline
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Default Re: Acy river

1. Obviously, thats the major drawback of my idea.

2. that depends, of course he gets a better price but a raise is more credible than a bet. This argument doesn't make that much sense anyway because he doesn't have a choice between betting and raising.

3. I wouldn't raise A9 here vs a solid tag.

The whole thing is obviously read-depending and a question of levelthinking. Against an unknown or a donkey i happily c/c and lose a bet. I only wanted to say that betting here is not per se horrible. Against some people c/c could be at least as bad. b/c, b/f, c/c and c/f could all be viable options here.
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Old 11-22-2007, 03:49 PM
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In tougher higher games you can't always check this river, they will play perfectly. Here you can obv. and call the bet.

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Old 11-22-2007, 04:00 PM
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In tougher higher games you can't always check this river, they will play perfectly. Here you can obv. and call the bet.

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In that case, you can c/f it, right?
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Old 11-23-2007, 03:33 AM
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In tougher higher games you can't always check this river, they will play perfectly. Here you can obv. and call the bet.

-DeathDonkey

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In that case, you can c/f it, right?

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Yes IF they will also play perfectly if you bet but they won't! They still call too much so even against guys that know when you check they shouldn't bluff with KQ they will quickly call with that KQ cuz their logic is "wow the ace didn't faze him he must have a monster or nothing" which is a pretty decent way to play against most guys.

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Old 11-23-2007, 07:11 AM
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2. that depends, of course he gets a better price but a raise is more credible than a bet. This argument doesn't make that much sense anyway because he doesn't have a choice between betting and raising.


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He doesn't have the choice, you do. You can steer him into making the action that has the highest EV for you.

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3. I wouldn't raise A9 here vs a solid tag.

The whole thing is obviously read-depending and a question of level thinking. Against an unknown or a donkey i happily c/c and lose a bet. I only wanted to say that betting here is not per se horrible. Against some people c/c could be at least as bad. b/c, b/f, c/c and c/f could all be viable options here.

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Yeah, but OP gave a read. Villain is horrible and given that I think bet/calling will be spew, but c/c will induce a bad bluff often enough to show a profit.
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