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Old 10-28-2007, 02:38 AM
CDAC CDAC is offline
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Default Hand & tournament endgame help

Live tournament down to 3. We are ITM and the relevant payouts are:
1st=720
2nd=450
3rd=280

Stacks:
Hero=28K
SB=10k
BB=25k

Blinds 500/1000
Hero OTB w/ 10s 10c raises to 3000, sb folds, bb calls
Flop Jc 7s 5s
BB leads for 6k
Hero??

I put the villain on a range of 55+, A5+, connectors down to T9.

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242,550 games 0.020 secs 12,127,500 games/sec

Board: Jc 7s 5s
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 59.713% 59.45% 00.27% 144185 648.50 { TcTs }
Hand 1: 40.287% 40.02% 00.27% 97068 648.50 { 55+, A5s+, K9s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, A5o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }


What's my play from both a individual hand standpoint and tournament endgame / ICM standpoint? I felt my skill level was way ahead of the sb short stack and probably equal with the bb.
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Old 10-28-2007, 05:08 AM
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Is he really leading out with that entire range?
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Old 10-28-2007, 06:34 AM
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Default Re: Hand & tournament endgame help

you MUST put pressure on him here. 3 handed i go all the way on this flop if he jacked he wins
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Old 10-28-2007, 10:45 AM
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Default Re: Hand & tournament endgame help

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Is he really leading out with that entire range?

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Narrowing down from his PF range, on the flop his range is probably something like 55, 77, 88+, Jx, 7x, 5x, high spade draw. What do you think?
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Old 10-28-2007, 11:00 AM
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Default Re: Hand & tournament endgame help

181,170 games 0.020 secs 9,058,500 games/sec

Board: Jc 7s 5s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 51.446% 51.14% 00.30% 92658 547.50 { TcTs }
Hand 1: 48.554% 48.25% 00.30% 87417 547.50 { 77+, 55, A5s+, K9s+, Q9s+, J9s+, AJo+, A7o, A5o, KJo+, QJo, JTo }

As far as the hand goes, I think I'm ahead of his range but......
Anyone find a fold here to give the short stack time to make a mistake so that we move up in the money? I was pretty confident that I could out play him and even if the other big stack busts shorty, I'm not that much of a chip underdog going into HU.
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Old 10-28-2007, 11:20 AM
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you MUST put pressure on him here. 3 handed i go all the way on this flop if he jacked he wins

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I agree that our stacks are awkward for anything less than a rrai. How do you like flatting him and seeing the turn?
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Old 10-29-2007, 02:33 AM
Golfdish Golfdish is offline
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Default Re: Hand & tournament endgame help

Would villain fold JT to a push?

If no, id tend towards folding, as i dont think he's leading out here with less than a J or 2 overcards + FD enough to warrant a push.

Flatting and seeing the turn sucks imo
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Old 10-29-2007, 05:50 AM
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Default Re: Hand & tournament endgame help

If you think villain will fold top pair to a flop shove, then do it.

Otherwise, you're probably only going to push out hands that you already have beat.
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:51 AM
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Default Re: Hand & tournament endgame help

I probably would have pushed PF and be happy with stealing the blinds. As played, I would fold or rrai BB's flop bet based upon any reads from previous play.

He may alsp be betting 2nd or 3rd pair or even semi-bluffing a draw (stright/flush) if he puts you on 2 overs.

Rod
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:26 PM
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Default Re: Hand & tournament endgame help

I think shoving pre with 28bb is not optimal.

I don't think villain is folding many (if any!) of his hands that contain a Jack. Is the PSB lead always a J? <edit: The board was Js 7c 5s> One of my thoughts at the time was that he might be betting a hand like A7s looking for a fold if I didn't have a Jack and have outs the the nuts if I did.

Why does nobody like calling and seeing the turn? I thought one option was call flop and fold to turn shove if unimproved. I would still have a 19bb stack at that point. Too spewy?

Or if I wanted to turn my hand into a bluff, I could shove if he checks and rep a bigger J or overpair. I had be running pretty good all night but that line probably sucks. My hand has showdown value if I can get to river cheaply.

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