HH of chip dumpers

[Cruzincat]

Something just struck me that I need clarification for. If someone goes all the way to the river and folds in order to dump chips, how does the HH show his cards to be 3,2 offsuit? I always though when you fold, only the player himself will know what his hole cards are.

[hra146]

unless he purposely showed them to you or youre playing on absolute, yes.

[Cruzincat]

He would REALLY have to be stupid to show.

[Cruzincat]

I play micro stakes on AP, so I requested HHs for the last week. I went through them until I found one where someone folded on the river. They did not show his cards. Please, no critique on my play here:

Stage #764536402: Holdem Normal $0.02/$0.04 - 2007-09-17 00:03:59.011 (ET) [ 2007-09-17 00:03:59 ]
Table: Orchid Ave (Real Money) Seat #5 is the dealer
Seat 5 - BLUEDOGIE71 ($1.83 in chips)
Seat 7 - JACK HODGES ($1.05 in chips)
Seat 1 - ALDON ($0.32 in chips)
Seat 2 - CRUZINCAT ($0.85 in chips)
Seat 4 - TOMMYJR ($1.35 in chips)
JACK HODGES - Posts small blind $0.01
ALDON - Posts big blind $0.02
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to CRUZINCAT [Ac Jd]
CRUZINCAT - Calls $0.02
TOMMYJR - Calls $0.02
BLUEDOGIE71 - Raises $0.04 to $0.04
JACK HODGES - Calls $0.03
ALDON - Folds
CRUZINCAT - Calls $0.02
TOMMYJR - Calls $0.02
*** FLOP *** [9d 3s 5s]
JACK HODGES - Checks
CRUZINCAT - Checks
TOMMYJR - Checks
BLUEDOGIE71 - Bets $0.02
JACK HODGES - Calls $0.02
CRUZINCAT - Folds
TOMMYJR - Folds
*** TURN *** [9d 3s 5s] [7s]
JACK HODGES - Bets $0.04
BLUEDOGIE71 - Calls $0.04
*** RIVER *** [9d 3s 5s 7s] [4c]
JACK HODGES - Bets $0.04
BLUEDOGIE71 - Folds
JACK HODGES - returned ($0.04) : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Seat 1: ALDON (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: BLUEDOGIE71 (dealer) Folded on the RIVER
Seat 7: JACK HODGES (small blind) collected Total ($0.29) HI$0.29) [Does not show]
Seat 4: TOMMYJR Folded on the FLOP
JACK HODGES - Does not show
JACK HODGES Collects $0.29 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($0.30) | Rake ($0.01)
Board [9d 3s 5s 7s 4c]
Seat 2: CRUZINCAT Folded on the FLOP

[Cruzincat]

Oh, AP does not offer the option to show your cards when you are the last to fold, either.

[pr1me]

your opponents know them anyways

[Cruzincat]

[ QUOTE ]
your opponents know them anyways

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Show me a hand history. The one that I posted was from a game I was on and I never saw what the player's cards were.

[Smell The Glove]

If this is a gimmick, it's a fantastic gimmick. APsuperuserscandal4lyfe.

[Cruzincat]

It was stated that these guys were chip dumping after the story broke. Whoever made the accusation said that the guy took one hand to the river betting/raising max, only to fold with 3,2 offsuit. I just want to know how they know what he had. I'd love to see a hand history.

[PokerStorm]

I don't know the way the Absolute HH's work but I know that one of the hands posted shows the cheat (not sure which account) losing to his opponents 5 high. So he had at best 4 high in this hand.