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Old 10-24-2007, 02:50 AM
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Cool lines, wtf do they mean? lol im clueless...


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Old 10-24-2007, 02:52 AM
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means you run well but are losing too much money postflop when pots dont go to showdown
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Old 10-24-2007, 02:57 AM
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Basically says you're running a few thousand above expectation in hands that go to showdown, and you're losing money in hands that don't go to showdown (ie not aggressive enough).
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Old 10-24-2007, 03:03 AM
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i thought i remembered someone saying in the fgators thread where his graph was posted that it was rare for the green line to be above the blue for most players but fgators was still really bad.
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Old 10-24-2007, 03:58 AM
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oh and something thats just kind of interesting. i have alot of hands on cts cause i used to datamine him alot at 5/10 and 10/20 when i was learning. i did an ev graph on his hands. while it says he won significantly more than he really has in PT...not sure why this is. his green line is sooooo amazingly far above his blue line it's sick.
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Old 10-24-2007, 04:07 AM
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PokerStars Game #12813575121: Hold'em No Limit ($3/$6) - 2007/10/24 - 04:02:36 (ET)
Table 'Agena' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: catcher3333 ($609 in chips)
Seat 2: hook2120 ($1998 in chips)
catcher3333: posts small blind $3
hook2120: posts big blind $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to catcher3333 [Qs Kd]
catcher3333: raises $18 to $24
hook2120: raises $84 to $108
catcher3333 said, ":P:"
catcher3333: raises $501 to $609 and is all-in
hook2120: calls $501
*** FLOP *** [Th 7s Js]
*** TURN *** [Th 7s Js] [2h]
*** RIVER *** [Th 7s Js 2h] [2s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
hook2120: shows [Ks 3d] (a pair of Deuces)
catcher3333: shows [Qs Kd] (a pair of Deuces - King+Queen kicker)
catcher3333 said, "weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"
catcher3333 collected $1217.50 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1218 | Rake $0.50
Board [Th 7s Js 2h 2s]
Seat 1: catcher3333 (button) (small blind) showed [Qs Kd] and won ($1217.50) with a pair of Deuces
Seat 2: hook2120 (big blind) showed [Ks 3d] and lost with a pair of Deuces

playing 2 tables he instaleft both

hook2120: BLOWIN STEAM OFF
hook2120: U N,IOGGER
hook2120: URE A FASG
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Old 10-24-2007, 04:11 AM
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oh and something thats just kind of interesting. i have alot of hands on cts cause i used to datamine him alot at 5/10 and 10/20 when i was learning. i did an ev graph on his hands. while it says he won significantly more than he really has in PT...not sure why this is. his green line is sooooo amazingly far above his blue line it's sick.

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If they're really old hands (like some sites have gone through a few hand history format changes over the years), it might be because PokerEV doesn't understand them fully. That would explain the extra winnings.

Also, sometimes when PokerEV is used on hand histories it doesn't fully understand or on a site that doesn't record mucked losing hands at showdown it basically shows someone looking like a poker god with their green line ridiculously high compared to the blue and red.
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Old 10-24-2007, 04:48 AM
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oh and loloPOZZEDu...keep 4 betting me light every other hand.

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keep auto3betting the top 40% and i will
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Old 10-24-2007, 05:17 AM
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oh and something thats just kind of interesting. i have alot of hands on cts cause i used to datamine him alot at 5/10 and 10/20 when i was learning. i did an ev graph on his hands. while it says he won significantly more than he really has in PT...not sure why this is. his green line is sooooo amazingly far above his blue line it's sick.

[/ QUOTE ]

If they're really old hands (like some sites have gone through a few hand history format changes over the years), it might be because PokerEV doesn't understand them fully. That would explain the extra winnings.

Also, sometimes when PokerEV is used on hand histories it doesn't fully understand or on a site that doesn't record mucked losing hands at showdown it basically shows someone looking like a poker god with their green line ridiculously high compared to the blue and red.

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PokerEV doesn't parse the hands, PokerTracker does. If hands were in a format that isn't supported by PT, they would not be imported into the database and therefore not included in PokerEV results.
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Old 10-24-2007, 11:41 AM
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oh and something thats just kind of interesting. i have alot of hands on cts cause i used to datamine him alot at 5/10 and 10/20 when i was learning. i did an ev graph on his hands. while it says he won significantly more than he really has in PT...not sure why this is. his green line is sooooo amazingly far above his blue line it's sick.

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Can you post the pokerev graph?
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