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Old 11-01-2007, 11:34 AM
mflip mflip is offline
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Default Re: KQo on the button...facing a push and an extreme shortie in the BB

You need ~43% equity if BB folds so he'd have to be shoving about 88+,A9+,KT+. Any wider and it's a definite call, tighter and it's a fold.
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:28 PM
hamnegger hamnegger is offline
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Default Re: KQo on the button...facing a push and an extreme shortie in the BB

its probably a slightly +ev play if u like to push small edges play. i cant fault either move
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:46 PM
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Default Re: KQo on the button...facing a push and an extreme shortie in the BB

Having thought about this hand a little longer I think that a shove is probably correct whether MP is good or tilting, which it sounds like he is.

Against a range of top 20% you're 49% when you only need 43% (assuming bb folds simplifies calculations and doesn't make a big difference I think). That's a pretty big edge to give up and obviously there's a decent chance he's shoving wider if he's tilting which makes it an even easier shove.
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Old 11-01-2007, 04:29 PM
JokerArmy JokerArmy is offline
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Default Re: KQo on the button...facing a push and an extreme shortie in the BB

thxs for all responses...in the actual hand as played I wound up "folding the best hand"...Villian shoved QJo and the BB called w/ K5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q on the river.

I thought at the time it was probably the safe play, going against my gut, since I figued I would be finding better spots later on...which I did...and it led to a FT only to have the same Villian that shoved the QJo felt me later on at the same FT [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img].

Looking back I think it was a mistake to fold, but maybe not that gross of a mistake (RO much maybe).

- JA
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