Cut-Off vs Tough button 3-bettor

[Turning Stone Pro]

This seems like a flop check-raise or a check-fold. If I am playing well and getting respect (which is rare), this is always a check-raise and lead the turn. I'd fire the river unless a A or K, then check-fold.

TSP

[Boris]

Hypothetical: Would it be OK to fold pf in this situation?

[J.A.Sucker]

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Hypothetical: Would it be OK to fold pf in this situation?

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Reality: Yes. Especially if the blinds play pretty well, too.

[NMcNasty]

I think you fold because a lot of the range that you beat is checking behind on the turn (KJ, KT, AJ, AT) trying to hit a gutshot (and even if they are in fact betting they have ten outs). There are plenty of blindly aggressive players that you have to call down though.

[Abbaddabba]

i think c/ring the flop puts you in a more difficult situation. if he has any semblance of a draw, he's going to push back at some point most of the time.

by c/cing the flop you're making your hand look like the kind you'd make a weak peel with to fold ui, so he's going to follow through almost every time. that's a good thing if you intend to call.


check/calling two streets generally sends a strong message that you're showdown bound, so you dont necessarily have to call the third barrel. his 3bet range is narrow enough that almost all of his hands have showdown value. is he really going to bluff with A10 high? i dont see it happening. just as i dont see him value betting worse pairs. you just cannot do this often, or else people will start firing the third barrel (and if you have folded in conspicuous spots like this in the recent past, you should call).

[j4lvlie]

checkraise flop and then call it down.