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Old 09-14-2007, 05:20 PM
Chipchucker5 Chipchucker5 is offline
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Default PS($109) 15k gtd: Kinda boring but unusual spot with KK

This was just a weird spot cause I hadn't really seen people limp like this before. I mean, I wasn't worried obv, but do you prefer shoving, or raising to some other amount. If you prefer a non-AI raise, what do you make it? Thanks.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t2000 with t200 antes (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t33243)
UTG+1 (t20089)
MP1 (t25178)
MP2 (t33816)
CO (t45420)
Hero (t30652)
SB (t42746)
BB (t42262)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls t2000, UTG+1 calls t2000, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, CO calls t2000, <font color="red">Hero?</font>
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Old 09-14-2007, 05:24 PM
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Default Re: PS($109) 15k gtd: Kinda boring but unusual spot with KK

10k
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Old 09-14-2007, 05:35 PM
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Default Re: PS($109) 15k gtd: Kinda boring but unusual spot with KK

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10k

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Do you hate shoving?
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Old 09-14-2007, 06:06 PM
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Default Re: PS($109) 15k gtd: Kinda boring but unusual spot with KK

10k all in on any flop. shoving is fine tho since people look you up with 66 and ATs A LOT
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Old 09-14-2007, 06:11 PM
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10k all in on any flop. shoving is fine tho since people look you up with 66 and ATs A LOT

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In-game, I also kind of thought the kamikazee shove might get looked up by those hands you mentioned, but looking back I felt like I didn't get max value out of it. I was just nervous about the ace flopping and feeling like I might have to fold. If I make it 10k, you'd get it AI on an ace high flop (assuming no K obv)?
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Old 09-14-2007, 06:48 PM
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Default Re: PS($109) 15k gtd: Kinda boring but unusual spot with KK

yes AI on A high flop - nobody's flat calling 1/3 of your stack with any Ax holding.

Course, it's happened before - but if they have AKish they're prob shoving on you pre.

I don't mind the shove either because you have 7m's ish and it looks awfully squeezy/weak. but OTOH your stack is enough to cripple/bust any player on the table.

Raise to 10k/AIAF &gt; Shove &gt; other madness

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Old 09-15-2007, 11:58 AM
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Default Re: PS($109) 15k gtd: Kinda boring but unusual spot with KK

wtf, shoving here with 15 BBs looks super squeezy; you'll get looked up by tons of hands. And, if anyone in this hand is a regular, it's good for metagame.
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