Can you fold QQ here?

[ThePhoenix78]

It's early in the SnG, so none of my reads are rock solid, but here are my general impressions...

SB and BB are tight players. BB hasn't played a hand yet I don't think. First limper is loose-aggressive. Second limper is tight as well.

So the LAG player limps and the one tight player limps. With QQ, I have to raise. Was thinking a largish amount like to 200 or 220, but decided that I could get the tight blinds and tight second limper to fold to a smaller raise and that the LAG player would call anyways, so figured a smaller raise would be best. But with a big PP against loose limpers, you want them to pay, so maybe shoulda bet bigger. But I also had position, so didn't think I had to raise as strongly, could use the position to my advantage. Settled on a close to a 4.5x raise to 175. First question: Do you like that raise? Or do you prefer a larger one?

So here's the HH:

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t40 (8 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

BB (t1650)
UTG (t3045)
UTG+1 (t825)
MP1 (t1455)
MP2 (t1695)
CO (t1455)
Hero (t1755)
SB (t1620)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls t40, CO calls t40, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t175</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls t135, MP2 calls t135, CO folds.

Flop: (t585) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t585</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t1520 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1580 (All-In)</font>, BB calls t890 (All-In).

Turn: (t5160) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 3 all-in)</font>
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River: (t5160) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 3 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t5160


Although it's too early to get great reads, I pegged the BB as pretty tight as his mere preflop call coupled with the bet out into two opponents in a raised pot is consistent with trips, but also with a few overpairs I have beat (99-JJ). Maybe some other hands as well like two overs and a flush draw. I should be very concerned by the raiser, but he seems pretty loose aggressive, I could see him doing that with just the weak top pair 8s. But it's early in the SnG, so I was also thinking "better safe than sorry" and that I should perhaps just fold where I'm probably not that strong against the total ranges of my opponents...but at the $2 SnG level (which this was), people make such horrible bets and raises all the time, so ultimately decided to call. What do you think?

[STALLOWN3D]

pf I raise to 200 and at a $2 no, not even remotely considering folding

[jkpoker]

i havent considered folding QQ on that type of flop and most likely never will

raise 200 pf is a good idea could even bump to 250 if you like make those limpers fold or make it expensive

[Dr_Wonderful]

You're read is that one of the limnpers might call a larger raise, and with that said you should get as much of his money in PF and raise a bit more. Depending on your read you should raise between 200 and 300 in my opinion. After the flop I never fold this, especially at a low SNG.