25 NL AA on drawy flop

skylos · #1 05-16-2007, 07:49 PM

So SB is 56/0/.67 over 23 hands and Button is 39/0/.5 over 23 hands as well.

What do I do here? Check and hope button bets and checkraise all in if SB just calls? Or bet something like $8 but it seemed absurd to me to have to bet 2x pot but then I guess I'm committed if he only has $5 left in a $25 pot? A push seems spewy but mabye not?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP1 ($29.55)
Hero ($23.45)
MP3 ($4.65)
CO ($20.65)
Button ($6.15)
SB ($14.05)
BB ($32.75)
UTG ($25.20)
UTG+1 ($24.90)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, 2 folds, Button calls $1.25, SB calls $1.15, 1 fold, MP1 folds.

Flop: ($4.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero ?

KJatl · #2 05-16-2007, 07:53 PM

Bet $4. If button pushes and SB calls, you won't be able to raise but a call is fine. You made it expensive to draw. If SB raises over the top of the button push, go all in.

skylos · #3 05-16-2007, 07:57 PM

Am I allowed to reraise all-in after betting $4 and SB pushing for $4.90? I thought the only way I could rereaise was if he double my bet to like $8 otherwise I was stuck having to just call?

Edit: Oops. Ok nevermind.

KJatl · #4 05-16-2007, 08:00 PM

You got it wrong. If the BUTTON pushes and the SB CALLS, you can only call. And if the SB pushes, there's no one else to raise so obviously it's just a call.

skylos · #5 05-16-2007, 08:05 PM

Oops again. Yeah I meant button not SB.

skylos · #6 05-16-2007, 08:09 PM

Ok. So I almost made it $4 I guess. I totally butchered this and now I'm screwed uh? Should check here and call a river bet thats not all in?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP1 ($29.55)
Hero ($23.45)
MP3 ($4.65)
CO ($20.65)
Button ($6.15)
SB ($14.05)
BB ($32.75)
UTG ($25.20)
UTG+1 ($24.90)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, 2 folds, Button calls $1.25, SB calls $1.15, 1 fold, MP1 folds.

Flop: ($4.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3, Button calls $3, SB calls $3.

Turn: ($13.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero ?

coordi · #7 05-16-2007, 08:12 PM

id probly shove as 10J is the only hand that got there and they are calling you down with a variety of hands.

or give up and check/f down

skylos · #8 05-16-2007, 08:16 PM

Gah. Ok so the tilt monkey in me came out since losing this hand was gonna put me back in the red for the day and I pushed on the turn.

I think I sould've bet $8 on the flop and been done with it if SB came along since both of them are looking like calling stations and I can't count on Button to bet here.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP1 ($29.55)
Hero ($23.45)
MP3 ($4.65)
CO ($20.65)
Button ($6.15)
SB ($14.05)
BB ($32.75)
UTG ($25.20)
UTG+1 ($24.90)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, 2 folds, Button calls $1.25, SB calls $1.15, 1 fold, MP1 folds.

Flop: ($4.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3, Button calls $3, SB calls $3.

Turn: ($13.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $19.2 (All-In), Button calls $1.90 (All-In), SB calls $9.80 (All-In).

River: ($44.15) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players, 3 all-in)

Final Pot: $44.15

Results
SB has Tc Jc (straight, queen high).
Hero has Ah As (one pair, aces).
Button has 6d Kd (high card, king).
Outcome: SB wins $34.75. Hero wins $9.40.

skylos · #9 05-16-2007, 08:21 PM

I don't think I've ever overbet the pot like this though but I think it might've been the best play on the flop here? Anyone with more experience? Obviously I don't think this wouldn't happen at higher stakes as the shorty would be as retarded and the hand would play differently but against these guys mabye it was?

coordi · #10 05-16-2007, 08:25 PM

At these stakes I think your stuck this hand no matter what you do, even shoving flop the open ended probly calls cause they are all donks.