200PS: Set in trouble?

TimberBee · #1 09-08-2007, 10:36 PM

Me and villain have been clashing a bit. He is pretty aggro, and I have not figuered out if he's aggro in a good way or not. Some hands ago I won a 700$ pot where I almost folded the river with a non-nut FH, but then I saw that I was getting almost 5-1, and I said 'lol' and called and won against his overplayed straight. He blamed me for slowrolling. He's been loose and aggressive, as said, and so have I, perhaps a little more passive than him.

Poker Stars
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $99.40
CO: $40
Hero: $727.90
SB: $264.15
BB: $264.80

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, Hero raises to $7, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($15, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($15, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB raises to $50.25, Hero calls.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($115.5, 2 players)
BB bets $108, Hero callsy ballsy or foldsy moldsy?

RoundTower · #2 09-09-2007, 03:32 AM

hero 3 bets the turn

BlueBear · #3 09-09-2007, 04:29 AM

If he's agro and loose, you can 3-bet the turn.

TimberBee · #4 09-09-2007, 07:00 AM

Really? Isn't this the nuts very often? As played, do you call the river?

RoundTower · #5 09-09-2007, 09:20 AM

well it could be, but it's not that likely he checked the nuts twice here. It doesn't look like hero has very much, so this is a good spot for an aggro guy to checkraise you with not very much/air/some kind of weak draw. A lower set is also possible.

As played I call, if he is bluffing he will surely fire again on a blank.

jpg7n16 · #6 09-09-2007, 12:33 PM

You mean that LAG villian actually checked 98xx for the nuts twice on this board? Sometime he has to protect his hand from clubs, the board pairing, and the higher straight draws out there. If you checked behind on turn and he has 98, there are about 20-25 cards that can hit that he won't like to see.

I say he's making a move w/ QJTx (or some combo draw) so as played, I'd pay off on the river - your line looks like you could have just a draw too.

Burdzthewurd · #7 09-09-2007, 05:06 PM

I'd fold river, looks like a clear slowplayed 89xx that wanted a non-board pair/flush turn and got it.

Aisthesis · #8 09-09-2007, 08:56 PM

I dunno, against a LAG short-handed... ?

With the flush draw out there (unless he has something like 98 with at least some flush draw), I find it somewhat hard to believe that he'd even check the flop unless he thinks you CB too frequently here.

I'm definitely capable of folding even against some LAGs here, but I think it's hard to say whether you're ahead at least 50% of the time in this spot without seeing your actual opponent in action. He definitely needs to be VERY tricky to check 2 streets to you with the made straight. I think he could also have something like nut flush draw with some pair as well as 45 with flush draw here (and the latter of course also wins)... or, as RT I think mentioned some losing set.

rine · #9 09-11-2007, 02:02 PM

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I'd fold river, looks like a clear slowplayed 89xx that wanted a non-board pair/flush turn and got it.

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Well it could be, but it's certainly not clear. I call.

CrushinFelt · #10 09-11-2007, 03:41 PM

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well it could be, but it's not that likely he checked the nuts twice here. It doesn't look like hero has very much, so this is a good spot for an aggro guy to checkraise you with not very much/air/some kind of weak draw. A lower set is also possible.

As played I call, if he is bluffing he will surely fire again on a blank.

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checking the nuts twice is the new thing ... and it works