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Old 11-12-2007, 04:37 PM
Killingbird Killingbird is offline
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Default Re: Question about ITM percentage

this is a realization I had recently as well. ITM was always around like 25%. But my ROI was hovering around 0% - 5%. I realized I was playing too conservatively on the bubble..making the money, but being shortstacked once the bubble bursts. I've changed that aspect of my game and in the short term my ITM is suffering, but I'm confident it will pay off with some big scores soon. Please?
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Old 11-12-2007, 04:51 PM
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October Sky: It seems as though you are playing a survival style as opposed to an accumulating one. This is my problem as well. When you run "red hot" it can be very profitable, but if you run bad or even average this style gets you nowhere fast. I feel your pain although I was fortunate enough to experience the upside of variance for a brief spell where you clearly have not.

If anyone has any advice, examples and/or links to some articles for hopeless nitty schmucks like us it would be appreciated. I think it's hard for people like us to understand how to sacrifice 5% ITM for a big score, but we gladly would.
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:41 PM
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Default Re: Question about ITM percentage

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No good player has an ITM that high.

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I'm running at 29% over 289 tournaments. But I'm pretty good at late game (and play micros $10-$26) so that might have a big difference. I've got a ROI of 109%. dunno, maybe I just run good...Of course I never play to survive...
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:59 PM
Atg Dax Atg Dax is offline
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No good player has an ITM that high.

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I think Thay3r ment it,more so for higher buy-ins, rather then small and micro ones.
And this can also be confirmed by seeing the ITM% of the top Leaderboard players.

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Old 11-12-2007, 09:09 PM
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Default Re: Question about ITM percentage

It should also be noted that field size and satellite vs. non-satellite makes a difference.

For example, you would expect a higher ITM and lower ROI if you play mostly 2-table tournaments. Same should be true if you play a lot of satellites that award a large number of seats.
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Old 11-12-2007, 09:09 PM
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Default Re: Question about ITM percentage

who cares about ITM anyway? ROI is all that matters when you look at a sample of poker tourneys.
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Old 11-12-2007, 09:25 PM
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If my ITM is just over 22% I should be doing better than just above break even over a 2 year period correct? This is really frustrating me why I am not doing better.

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over how many tourneys?
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Old 11-12-2007, 10:30 PM
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Thepokerdb has me at 927 tournaments. Good point about the sats.....I have been playing more of those lately but my ITM has always been 20-23%.
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:44 AM
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who cares about ITM anyway? $/Hour is all that matters when you look at a sample of poker tourneys.

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FYP.
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Old 11-15-2007, 12:20 PM
october sky october sky is offline
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Default Re: Question about ITM percentage

Is there such a thing as a 2+2 curse? I have not cashed in 14 straight tournaments since this post. I am only 3 way from my record of futility. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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