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Old 11-02-2007, 12:32 PM
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Default 3bet fun- whats a good calling range here vs villains flop shove?

Party Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $62.63
UTG: $22.10
MP: $22.58
CO: $56.53
BTN: $61.20
Hero (SB): $48.75

Pre-Flop: X[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] X[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $2</font>, BTN calls $2, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.50</font>, 2 folds, BTN calls $6.50

Flop: ($19.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $10.25</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $52.70 and is All-In</font>,

A simple postflop spot.

Hero 3bets a LP semi-solid mcTAG regular from the blinds.

Whats my range here - what do you put the villain on? and what hands are good to call with in this spot?
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Old 11-02-2007, 12:43 PM
L'ennemi. L'ennemi. is offline
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Default Re: 3bet fun- whats a good calling range here vs villains flop shove?

insta call with AK obviously.
Probably call with AQ, but I'm not sure, depends on villain and feel I guess, but I tend to station too much in those spots
I d'ont call with weaker, if he is pulling a move, good for him
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Old 11-02-2007, 12:44 PM
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Default Re: 3bet fun- whats a good calling range here vs villains flop shove?

since villain cold called and now seems to like his hand i put him on a wide range of aces, sets and occasionally a bit of 78.

i need AT/J+ to call.
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Old 11-02-2007, 01:13 PM
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Default Re: 3bet fun- whats a good calling range here vs villains flop shove?

Ax, sets, 56, maybe KK.

Villain called twice pf so his range is wide.
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Old 11-02-2007, 01:51 PM
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Default Re: 3bet fun- whats a good calling range here vs villains flop shove?

your range is prob AQ+ and 99+
I put villan on AJ+ 66 55 and VERY rare 78 and maybe some carazy bluff with 44 77 88 or something but rare

Id call with AT and sets of coarse
but then agian is AQ that much different than like A9 is this spot?

your range might be wider do you squeeze much @ 50 NL?
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:05 PM
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Default Re: 3bet fun- whats a good calling range here vs villains flop shove?

You will see A6, A5 and 56 a lot here I think as well as sets. The occasional retarded PP 77-JJ. Having said that it is close as whether he has A9+ enough here also to call. I expect the pot is laying good enough odds and there are enough WTF hands that he might have that make AJ+ my range without a better read. More so as hero only bet 1/2 pot on flop and may have induced a move? Not sure if that happens at this level though.
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:08 PM
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Default Re: 3bet fun- whats a good calling range here vs villains flop shove?

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Ax, sets, 56, maybe KK.

Villain called twice pf so his range is wide.

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i don't think u can call w/out AK or AA. i also don't see u 3betting with 65o or 87o here, i think u have JJ or QQ.
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:26 PM
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Default Re: 3bet fun- whats a good calling range here vs villains flop shove?

do standard tags call your 3 bet with hands like A5s and A6s?
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:35 PM
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Default Re: 3bet fun- whats a good calling range here vs villains flop shove?

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Ax, sets, 56, maybe KK.

Villain called twice pf so his range is wide.

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i don't think u can call w/out AK or AA. i also don't see u 3betting with 65o or 87o here, i think u have JJ or QQ.

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You fold AQ if you are Hero? You shouldn't fold any ace here that you'd 3b. And you shouldn't be 3betting a bunch of crappy aces, so hopefully you only have a few Aces in this spot.
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:47 PM
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Default Re: 3bet fun- whats a good calling range here vs villains flop shove?

Villain has air or better than TPTK here, so call/fold accordingly. Calling with Ax but folding JJ would be pretty goofy.
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