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Old 11-07-2007, 06:50 PM
kyro kyro is offline
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Old 11-07-2007, 06:54 PM
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My point is more about the hysteria than surrounds this situations than any flaw in what you said.

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yeah, good point. I guess I shouldnt have made my comment, as im not trying to create strife. I did the same thing after 9/11 when everyone was busy calling the terrorists evil and monsters and I disagreed. I guess I just dont understand hysterical reactions in situations like these

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They were evil monsters. They were not cowards, and they may have been right that that might have been the best way to pursue their goals. I don't think that absolves them of moral failure.

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And they say we are evil monsters....so whos right? And its a moral failure according to your set of morals, but there is no absolute when it comes to that, so again, whos right?

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Im also open to a good deal of relativism, but, I think any act that, if taken as the norm, would lead to the near-immediate extinction of humanity is about as close to "objectively immoral" as you can get.
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Old 11-07-2007, 06:56 PM
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but I'm very skeptical of any moral system that considers 9/11 an acceptable means to an end.

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as am I, and I wouldnt want to live in a society that shared that moral system, but I have to accept that such societies or individuals exist who have that moral system, and that my moral system is no more right or wrong than theirs. Neither one is Good or Evil, they are just different from each other.
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:02 PM
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His treatise, if you can call it that, is disjointed and missing some explanatory elements, aside from the obvious flaw of being rather insane. That being said, he writes fairly well.
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:05 PM
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And they say we are evil monsters....so whos right?

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we both are.
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:12 PM
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I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:23 PM
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I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

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if it helps i also think we're right when we say we're not evil monsters.
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:33 PM
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lol at this from an article in a Norwegian newspaper: "[he] shot himself in the head. The police thinks he tried to kill himself."
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That's pretty assumptive. For all we know he was playing a game of solo Russian Roulette and lost.

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Actually he was playing Polish Roulette not Russian Roulette. Russian Roulette is played with a revolver, he had an automatic pistol.

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Its terrible that kids are dying at the hands of others who feel they have the right to take lives, but [censored] this Polish roulette thing about had me in tears.
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:45 PM
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I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

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if it helps i also think we're right when we say we're not evil monsters.

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Who's we?
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:46 PM
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id at least respect this kid if he went out and did something mildly productive/destructive, but this is just pointlessly destructive.
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