100PLO: AAxx is costing me a fortune, flop decision. - Page 4

TheRempel · #31 07-29-2007, 05:15 PM

Not unless he calls the flop with any flush draw/any straight draw etc.

MadScientist · #32 07-29-2007, 08:01 PM

Horrible flop for you. I would fold here. There will lots of flops with DS AAxx that will be great for you. Multi way, I think this is a fold.

alavet · #33 07-30-2007, 12:14 AM

btw any flush draw after your all in have enough odds to call

TheRempel · #34 07-30-2007, 02:14 AM

Not really. The player leading could easily have a flush draw, OP could have AA with nut clubs, he's going to have a solid draw that he can call with a very small percentage of the time, like less than 25%. Obviously if you have notes that he calls with any kind of draw in this spot (including two pair draws) then you should fold.

morphball · #35 07-30-2007, 10:32 AM

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The poster I was responding to asked about limping it. So, I was talking about my opening raise range which is much wider than AAxx at 6max.

But, no I'm only 4-betting AA hands because people are 3-betting very very tight at 200PLO.

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Getting board with STT's Devin? Anyways, even if you are correct about people 3-betting tightly, which is often the case, they certainly don't call tightly, especially when they smell aces.

It looks like BB outflopped you, but is weak in the redraw department. It's tough, but I think this is a fold because J9xss hits the ranges poeple call three bets (and 4-bets) with in the face and there is another player left to act.

Anyways, try to 3 and 4 bet more hands than AA hands, high double suited wraps and high pair wraps come immediately to mind, especially against aggressive players. You'll be surprised how this will help you get stacks in preflop the times you do have aces.

Alternatively, for this hand since you are new to the table...sure you are double suited, but other than hoping to catch those draws, the 7 and 3 are worthless cards. Calling, and going for c/r seems like a plausible line to take here too. It doesn't tell the table you have aces, it keeps the pot somewhat under control, and you are still likely to have the best hand after the flop.

DevinLake · #36 07-30-2007, 11:02 AM

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Getting board with STT's Devin?

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I haven't played STTs since November.

Poker monkey · #37 07-30-2007, 01:38 PM

Results?

DevinLake · #38 07-30-2007, 02:05 PM

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Results?

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I don't have the HH on this computer, but I think his is what happened.

I call, button calls.

BB has like KKJ9 I think. Maybe KQJ9.
Button has Q88x with flush draw.

BB's HIG.

RichGangi · #39 07-30-2007, 02:15 PM

Fold. You only have one pair, no clubs.

citanul · #40 07-30-2007, 11:14 PM

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Fold. You only have one pair, no clubs.

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honestly, when you boil down all the reasoning and such on this hand, and the situation, it comes down to the above quoted. if the situation weren't what it is, you could think about it more, but it isn't. fold, you have one pair, no clubs.