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Old 09-21-2007, 10:30 AM
paddytokey paddytokey is offline
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Default K-K facing turn push

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.02/$0.05 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $11.17
BB: $8.04
UTG: $2.57
MP: $1.90
CO: $8.27
Hero (BTN): $6.09

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.05, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.25</font>, 2 folds, MP calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.57) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $0.35</font>, MP calls $0.35

Turn: ($1.27) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets all-in for $1.30</font>, Hero ???


First of all,i should have c-bet more on the flop,i know.
Do you call this?No reads on villain
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Old 09-21-2007, 10:35 AM
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Default Re: K-K facing turn push

Given MPs stack I don't think you did yourself much harm on the flop, but betting more on a board this co-ordinated won't harm you either, I think you have to call the turn push because it doesn't seem to make any sense at all, if he hit an 8 I think it is highly likely he checks to you again.

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Old 09-21-2007, 10:37 AM
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Default Re: K-K facing turn push

at these level, raise more pre
and this is an easy call imo.
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Old 09-21-2007, 10:38 AM
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Default Re: K-K facing turn push

With no reads I say call then take good notes if you're beat.
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Old 09-21-2007, 10:40 AM
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Default Re: K-K facing turn push

Insta call since it's a shorty and I tend not to give them much credit (leak?). I often rationalize that there's a reason most of these guys are short and the number 1 reason is that they are donks. I know this is generalizing and there are some players that play a tight mean short stack game (not many IMO). You will see a full array of trash often here including A3, A10, K10, J10, flush draws, Straight draws, etc. I call this all day long. If he has an 8 so be it. Your cbet is fine BTW.
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Old 09-21-2007, 10:52 AM
paddytokey paddytokey is offline
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Default Re: K-K facing turn push

To me this bet made no sense as well,he might do this with a flushdraw,but i would have that beat right now anyway.if he really had an 8,he would probably check to me,since he can easily push if i bet since he is that short.so i called.
btw,he had k-10o [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 09-21-2007, 10:55 AM
Warteen Warteen is offline
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Default Re: K-K facing turn push

Never ever fold an overpair to a push from a stack this short. Shortstacks are usually desperate and overplaying their top- or mid-pair type hands.
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Old 09-21-2007, 11:11 AM
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Default Re: K-K facing turn push

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I think you have to call the turn push because it doesn't seem to make any sense at all, if he hit an 8 I think it is highly likely he checks to you again.

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Does much make sense in micro limits- especially this low. I bounce between NL2 and NL5 and see a lot of crazy things. I think this is very player dependent but I can easily see someone calling a big PFR w A8s,K8s,89s, etc. If this dude is a loose passive player - probably not within his game to slow play monsters; call when catch a piece and push when improve. All you have is an overpair.
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