Do you fold this?

nigul · #1 11-03-2007, 01:41 PM

Should I get away from this pot on turn after being reraised?

Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $9.50
UTG+1: $4.50
CO: $2.90
Hero: $10.20
SB: $7.40
BB: $9.35

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Hero calls, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($0.5, 5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($0.5, 5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $0.5, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $2, 2 folds, UTG raises to $7, Hero raises all-in $10.1, UTG calls all-in $2.9.
Uncalled bets: $0.2 returned to Hero.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($20.3, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $20.3)

Results:
Final pot: $20.3
UTG showed Jc 5h 8d Th
Hero showed 7c Jd Tc Ah

DonCologne · #2 11-03-2007, 02:08 PM

Nearly every single card in the deck can possible make a higher hand for UTG. The best you can get without any redraw is to split the pot and UTG is surely freeroling you in this spot.
So flat call (the 0,5$ bet) seems fine and if a scare card comes at the river and its checked to you (if its heads up against UTG), you can try to get the whole pot with beting out.

nigul · #3 11-03-2007, 02:28 PM

If i flat call this small bet on turn I cannot get any information from villain at all. Maybe he has both flush draws instead but no str8. Then I'm virtually giving him a free card.

DonCologne · #4 11-03-2007, 02:30 PM

You get information on river, because you have position.

nigul · #5 11-03-2007, 02:32 PM

Maybe I made a mistake by giving the results at once. If the cards are known there is really nothing to discuss about this hand.

Poker monkey · #6 11-03-2007, 11:26 PM

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Nearly every single card in the deck can possible make a higher hand for UTG. The best you can get without any redraw is to split the pot and UTG is surely freeroling you in this spot.
So flat call (the 0,5$ bet) seems fine and if a scare card comes at the river and its checked to you (if its heads up against UTG), you can try to get the whole pot with beting out.

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What ever happened to charging people to draw? True, there are lots of scare cards to come, so BET BET BET now while you still have the nuts and can get some value for it!

chucky · #7 11-04-2007, 12:08 AM

Ok. But do you fold to the reraise?

Poker monkey · #8 11-04-2007, 02:12 AM

With these stack sizes I'm shoving the turn. If they were deeper, I'd still call - personally, I can't imagine folding the nuts with just one card to come, in position.

RoundTower · #9 11-04-2007, 02:41 AM

why would you raise to $2 if you are going to fold, if you think he almost certainly has the straight then just call the first bet, otherwise raise and stack off.

chucky · #10 11-03-2007, 02:08 PM

I might fold this preflop. On turn the math says fold because if the person is freerolling to heart flush you have 40% equity in a pot worth $12 which is less than the 8 more bucks you need to invest.