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atheists do not conform without at least some thinking for themselves. [/ QUOTE ] Come on man. Are you kidding? |
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I don't necessarily care about religion.
I am not a HUGE sports fan anymore; although I follow the big four. I do consider myself a pretty big New Jersey Devils fan because they stand for what is all good about sports. Good management, team players, sacrificing all to win, staying out of trouble outside of the rink.... When they accomplish something I feel pride in their success I guess. I have pride in my horse stable I own. We are just a group of low level thoroughbred claimers who love the game and believe in the trainer that works for us. This led me to have pride in the whole "Barbaro" thing. This probably relates to my passion for horses, horse wagering, and being at the Preakness when he broke then though too. just my 2 cents. FYC |
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Im also very proud of the USA too, I dont se how anyone couldnt be. [/ QUOTE ] don't we have concentration camps? |
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Pride is a function of ego, mathematically speaking.
It fulfills a psychological desire to aggrandize oneself by association. I fail to see any non-psychological benefit derived from pride. |
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[ QUOTE ] Im also very proud of the USA too, I dont se how anyone couldnt be. [/ QUOTE ] don't we have concentration camps? [/ QUOTE ] Who is we? The USA isnt a particular person or persons. |
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Im also very proud of the USA too, I dont se(e) how anyone couldnt be. [/ QUOTE ] In order to be "proud" of something you have to believe that is superior. Many people (myself included) understand that the United States is not the "greatest country in the world", despite what the spin doctors tell you. Many of us (myself included) see it as a temporary, destructive force that will be dominant for a (historically speaking) very short period of time. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Im also very proud of the USA too, I dont se how anyone couldnt be. [/ QUOTE ] don't we have concentration camps? [/ QUOTE ] Who is we? The USA isnt a particular person or persons. [/ QUOTE ] so what are you proud of then? you arent ashamed of the bad things that large parts of the government do but you are proud of our country? i dont get it. |
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[ QUOTE ] Im also very proud of the USA too, I dont se(e) how anyone couldnt be. [/ QUOTE ] In order to be "proud" of something you have to believe that is superior. Many people (myself included) understand that the United States is not the "greatest country in the world", despite what the spin doctors tell you. Many of us (myself included) see it as a temporary, destructive force that will be dominant for a (historically speaking) very short period of time. [/ QUOTE ] This makes me sick to my stomach, actually it really makes me sad, because if the US isnt a domininant force for a very long time, it will be becuase of people like you undermining what those before us have accomplished. When you say spin doctors, you must mean my parents, and grandparents, and a lot of people's hero's, otherwise, dont ever [censored] talk down to me like that again. BTW, what country do you believe is the greatest country in the world? |
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This makes me sick to my stomach, actually it really makes me sad, because if the US isnt a domininant force for a very long time, it will be becuase of people like you undermining what those before us have accomplished. [/ QUOTE ] Plenty of other countries/empires have failed before. It seems more likely than not that the US will get there eventually, too. Also, why does it matter if the US is the greatest country in the world or not? I'm being serious. |
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I know that at some point, just like everyone else, our country will fail to exist, I just really really hope its not from people who just like to be pseudo-euro socialists, undermining the US.
It doesnt really matter too much I guess if it is the greatest or not, I just have a really really bad hangup for people who love to bitch about the US, saying that we are evil, then go to starbucks, buys a 6$ coffee, as I view much of the neo-hippies and subversives as a bunch of hypocritical douche bags. |
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